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Old 12-16-2020, 10:31 AM
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https://taxfoundation.org/states-rely-most-federal-aid/

Again, I am not surprised. The GOP states are the welfare states of the country taking money from the prosperous Dem led states.

This was just another attempt at a lie by #45 to get votes and his sheep continued to follow.

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Old 12-16-2020, 11:56 AM
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Bahhhh ahahahaha
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Old 12-16-2020, 01:20 PM
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Oh look.

A troll.
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Old 12-16-2020, 01:30 PM
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Oh look.

A troll.
LOL. Isnít he cute , can we get it mounted and hang it above the fire place
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Old 12-17-2020, 10:55 AM
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Here you go!

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This article and topic is less than accurate. For starters, the data is almost 7 years old (it's from TY 2014). If you read the notes at the bottom, it states a very basic and generic method for making this calculation that ignores several pertinent facts that would present a more accurate assessment. Such as there are actually 6 welfare programs, not just 1 big bundle of money spent that's called welfare. Using a % of money spent per state ignores the fact that some state (like CA & NY) can easily have 2-3+ times the # of recipients as smaller states. Or that some states have a much higher # of welfare recipients per 100K population in their state.

The OP's linked article contains the sort of minimal or incomplete data analysis one might expect from a 3rd grader. Here's a different article with a little more data (from 2019) that is by no means a complete set of data or analysis. However, it does bring up some of the information I mentioned above. I only posted a partial quote from the article. If anybody is interested, the article lists more information for each individual state and has quite a bit of information to consider.

Welfare Recipients by State 2020

Welfare is a type of government support for the citizens of that society to meet their basic human needs such as food and shelter. Welfare programs typically provide either a free or subsidized supply of certain goods and services such as healthcare and education.

The United States has six major welfare programs: Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Programs (SNAP), Supplemental Security Income, Earned Income Tax Credit, Housing Assistance, and Medicaid. These six welfare programs are not to be confused with the four entitlement programs: Social Security, Medicare, unemployment insurance, and worker’s compensation.

Welfare recipients in the United States must prove their income falls below a certain target based on the federal poverty level in order to qualify. In April 2018, President Trump signed an executive order directing federal agencies to review work requirements for TANF, Medicaid, SNAP, and housing assistance. Childless SNAP recipients who do not have disabilities, for example, must find a job within three months or lose their benefits.

The number of SNAP recipients has decreased overall in most states, as can be seen in the table below. The number of recipients grew during 2007-2011 due to the recession and has seen a steady decline since, most likely because of an improving economy and the imposed three-month limit.

The ten states that have the highest number of SNAP recipients are:
  1. California (3,636,314)
  2. Texas (3,291,843)
  3. Florida (2,779,400)
  4. New York (2,642,450)
  5. Illinois (1,780,778)
  6. Pennsylvania (1,741,489)
  7. Ohio (1,378,556)
  8. Georgia (1,348,973)
  9. Michigan (1,167,928)
  10. Tennessee (891,135)
Here are the 10 states with the most welfare recipients:
  1. New Mexico (21,459 per 100k)
  2. Louisiana (17,293 per 100k)
  3. West Virginia (17,155 per 100k)
  4. Mississippi (14,743 per 100k)
  5. Oklahoma (14,678 per 100k)
  6. Alabama (14,674 per 100k)
  7. Illinois (14,007 per 100k)
  8. Rhode Island (13,967 per 100k)
  9. Oregon (13,756 per 100k)
  10. Pennsylvania (13,613 per 100k)

https://worldpopulationreview.com/st...ients-by-state
Edit--Summary--If you look at the 2 lists above (and depending on whether you classify a state as being Republican or Democrat and how you decide that), the first list is pretty even at 5 Reps and 5 Dems. The 2nd list looks like it has 7 Dems and 3 Reps. I don't think the OP tends to read the entire articles that he posts or links to and I am convinced that he doesn't research the issues before he posts his "opinions."

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Old 12-18-2020, 06:27 AM
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Well done sir.

In one fell swoop you countered the Chinese asset's lies.
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Old 12-18-2020, 04:32 PM
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Will, if life in the Blue states is so great. Why are people LEAVING as fast as they can? Where are they going, you might ask? To TEXAS AND FLORIDA. Why? For LOWER TAXES AND A BETTER LIFE.
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Old 12-18-2020, 06:54 PM
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Don't introduce facts. Chinese assets speak very poor english, and are easily confused.
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Old 12-19-2020, 03:30 AM
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If it wasn't for red states that refused to completely shut down during the China plague, the economy would be non-existent right now.
Then, the reason for the second stimulus being held up in congress (other than Pelosi not wanting Trump to sign it before the election) was so the virus crises could be used to bail out cities like Chicago that has been on a path to bankruptcy long before the plague hit. Add the cities like Seattle, Portland, and other liberal run cities that allowed the rioters to destroy parts of their city. I don't think they should get a dime of relief.
Another thing not considered is how state and local taxes, SALT is able to be offset by federal filing in states that tax the living crap out of their residents. The residents can afford it because they get it back when they file but it is the Federal government which makes this possible. It is an indirect transfer of money straight into the state coffers, paid for by the rest of the country.

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