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Old 05-26-2020, 09:01 AM
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Default Is covid already beginning to vanish?

Many seemingly world dooming viruses in the past have simply vanished. Is that happening to Covid19?

DO WE EVEN NEED A SHOT NOW?
https://txarmyvet.blogspot.com/2020/...-covid-is.html

By Matt Vespa

Well, North Carolina’s COVID death toll has been slashed big league. Florida was supposed to be awash with new bodies. That prediction, which was infused with a ghoulish sense of glee from liberal media folks, was made eight weeks ago. It has not happened. The curve has been flattened, deaths are dropping, and the hospitalizations have stabilized. The health care system has pressure on it, but that’s no longer the case. It’s time to re-open. The initial intent of the lockdowns was to flatten the curve. It’s been flattened. Now, to no one’s surprise, the Democrats in charge of states and localities hard hit by the initial wave of the coronavirus want people to stay inside. As this is happening, scores of businesses have suffered or closed. Millions are out of work.The part that remains unsaid because DC mayor wants to continue lockdown:

DC conducted 9,000 new tests. Found 73 positives.

0.8 percent!

Positivity rate just fell off a cliff. Virus has disappeared.

The epidemic is over, but the power grab continues.https://t.co/CN4oCtZrk8
— Jordan Schachtel (@JordanSchachtel)
Ignore the bogus fear propaganda in the media. According to DC's own COVID-19 data, COVID patients are taking up 323 of 3,928 available hospital beds in DC's healthcare system. That's 8 percent (!) of total capacity. Significantly lower than flu season.https://t.co/CwC4oiOdmR— Jordan Schachtel (@JordanSchachtel)
For the vast majority of the country, phase one of re-opening can occur. In fact, that’s most of the country by now, even New York City. Yet, for a bit, there was talk of normal life returning when a vaccine was developed. Common sense, yes—but news out of the United Kingdom shows that this virus is fading so fast that developers might not be able to produce a successful vaccine. I guess some can be worried that no vaccine can possibly be developed for COVID, but is it really devastating news when the cause is because the pathogen is—for lack of a better term—dying out? (via Sydney Morning Herald)The virus is fading so fast that pharma companies are considering scrapping vaccine trials.

It's over.

The only thing stopping us from going back to pre-COVID days are politicians, "public health experts," and a fear mongering media.https://t.co/Osaf5L0iNv
— Jordan Schachtel (@JordanSchachtel)
This follows a TV appearance by the infamous Scott Gottlieb admitting Pfizer (he's a Pfizer board member) may have to shelve vaccine trials due to lack of virus prevalence.

A tragedy for Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and those they have on the payroll, but good news for humanity.
— Jordan Schachtel (@JordanSchachtel)
An Oxford University vaccine trial has only a 50 per cent chance of success because coronavirus is fading so rapidly in Britain, a project co-leader has warned.

The warning comes as new data reveals that there are now 224 vaccines in development around the world - almost double the total of just a month ago.

Professor Adrian Hill said an upcoming Oxford vaccine trial, involving 10,000 volunteers, threatened to return "no result" because of low transmission of COVID-19 in the community.

The eyes of the nation — and perhaps the world — are firmly on Hill and his team at Oxford University.

This week, pharmaceutical giant AstraZeneca announced a $US1.2 billion deal with the United States to produce 400 million doses of an unproven coronavirus vaccine first produced in Hill's small Oxford lab. The British government has agreed to pay for up to 100 million doses, announcing that 30 million might be ready for British citizens as soon as September.

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"It is a race, yes. But it's not a race against the other guys. It's a race against the virus disappearing, and against time," he said. "At the moment, there's a 50 per cent chance that we get no result at all."

Hill said that of 10,000 people recruited to test the vaccine in the coming weeks — some of whom will be given a placebo — he expected fewer than 50 people to catch the virus. If fewer than 20 test positive, then the results might be useless, he warned.

"We're in the bizarre position of wanting COVID to stay, at least for a little while. But cases are declining." Another sign that leaders overreacted to this pandemic. And yes, I was one who did go overboard. It looks like that with every passing day. Hey, remember when President Trump said this thing would go away. Well, it's going away. Fast enough that it could render some vaccine trials useless. We want this thing to go away, but now we need to keep it around for a successful vaccine test. We're in crazy town. Some of you have noted from the beginning that we were on this trajectory.

As of now, how can one argue that we're not flying blind? On top of this, we have this face mask debate. It's gone from wear one to you don't need to, and now you should, but you can create one with a t-shirt. And after all that, it's not mandatory in some states which undercut the reasoning to ever think about face masks. The virus spreads on surfaces they said, but now actually maybe not as easily (via CBS News):The Centers for Disease Control updated its guidance earlier this month to emphasize the coronavirus does not spread easily on surfaces, focusing more on human-to-human transmission. And new planning documents from the CDC contain more of its estimates about the transmission of the virus.

Touching surfaces and objects is now listed under the heading, "The virus does not spread easily in other ways" on the CDC web page.

Earlier, "Contaminated surfaces and objects" had appeared on the web page as a separate heading — just as "Person-to-person spread" does —even though the CDC does not believe that the virus spreads easily from surfaces and objects.
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Old 05-26-2020, 10:21 AM
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Actually, those DC #'s quoted in your article are even better. 9,000 tests with only 73 positives is actually .00811111111%. Which is a definite flattening of the curve.
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Originally Posted by CalHunter View Post
Actually, those DC #'s quoted in your article are even better. 9,000 tests with only 73 positives is actually .00811111111%. Which is a definite flattening of the curve.
CalHunter: you did your math wrong. It is indeed 0.8111%.

Calculate percent as (cases/opportunities) X 100

If 50 people out of 100 are male, then (50/100) X 100 = 50% are male NOT 0.5%. The raw division result is as you say . . . but you have to multiply through by 100 to express as percent.
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Old 05-26-2020, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by CalHunter View Post
Actually, those DC #'s quoted in your article are even better. 9,000 tests with only 73 positives is actually .00811111111%. Which is a definite flattening of the curve.
That is what you call a "significant mathematical error." o.O

As it turns out, a very positive one, assuming the base statistics are correct.

@Alsatian- stop confusing us, we are public school educated!
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Originally Posted by Alsatian View Post
CalHunter: you did your math wrong. It is indeed 0.8111%.

Calculate percent as (cases/opportunities) X 100

If 50 people out of 100 are male, then (50/100) X 100 = 50% are male NOT 0.5%. The raw division result is as you say . . . but you have to multiply through by 100 to express as percent.




Darn engineers. Always gotta be right. Perhaps this is why I never did well with math in school.
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They don't pay us to math Cal.

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No way officer you better check your math. I wasn't doing 85 in a 30 zone. No wonder you cops give out so many speeding tickets...lol

OK I gotta say it...how many donuts are in a dozen Jake?
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Old 05-26-2020, 06:25 PM
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As long as they're free, who's counting

In all seriousness: I'm not a donut guy. Can't remember the last time I ate a donut. Funny story though. When I was new one of my jobs was to go by dunking donuts and pick up donuts for a township meeting every month. I always felt dumb carrying out that many donuts while in uniform lol.

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Old 05-26-2020, 10:08 PM
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This virus ain't over Val... Yeah I know, here we go again... To be honest, I hope you're correct... Just don't believe that you are...

Have researched your sources... Seems to me that there so far to the right that they need there own zip code,,,

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Old 05-27-2020, 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Bocajnala View Post
As long as they're free, who's counting

In all seriousness: I'm not a donut guy. Can't remember the last time I ate a donut. Funny story though. When I was new one of my jobs was to go by dunking donuts and pick up donuts for a township meeting every month. I always felt dumb carrying out that many donuts while in uniform lol.

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hahaha...great come back Jake. Got to admit I am a donut guy but dont eat them often anymore. Nothing like a good sinker with my morning coffee.
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