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Old 04-24-2020, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Valorius View Post
@Lunkerdog: If you don't like the Pennsylvania.gov's hospitalization figures, take it up with them. Umm... Why would I take it up with them? You posted the data with a 45% deficit in CV19 cases... If your going to post the data as being accurate, it's your job to vet it... I'm merely point out the discrepancy in the #'s...

Tell me, in a business context, what word equates to bankruptcy of an entire industry. I would say extinction is a pretty good synonym. Sorry, but Bankruptcy still doesn't equate to extinction... Not even close... My concern is your use of such "inflammatory" language at a time like this... Pretty sure that no Russian hacker would do something like that...

Airline profit margins were already razor thin. When your industry operates on extremely thin profit margins, then all your business literally vanishes, mass bankruptcies result. We already know that many bankruptcy's are coming... Based on history, I'm guessing that both the airline, and oil industry will wash out of this in good shape... I'm pretty sure that neither will be "extinct"...

Same is happening to industries all over the economy in general. Yes it is... None of us know how bad this is going to be... I do know that "This to Will Pass"... How the recovery shapes up would be pure speculation, but am confident that a recovery is coming...

Mitch McConnell just stated he even favors US STATES declaring bankruptcies.

@Alsatian I don't favor bailouts in general. My point is not that we need to rescue these industries so much as the fact they are going to suffer a mass extinction event. NO US oil manufacturer can survive in the current pricing climate. They are going to go out of business en masse. Again with the inflammatory crap... Mmm...

That will obviously cause cascade failures in many of the service industries that support them. Again... Mmm...
It ain't Armageddon yet, but go ahead an keep promoting it as such...

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Old 04-25-2020, 12:08 PM
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Hay Lunker how you doing these days, you have a PM.

While I am here might as well comment. It seems the more we know about Covid-19 The Wuhan China Virus, the more We find we know very little. It seems to Me the Chinese have been eating Bats for Decides and just now this Virus has jumped from Bat to Human.

Coincidence that there just so happens to be a partly United States Founded Viral Research Lab in the very City where this Virus is said to have originated. And They were researching this very Virus at the same time. And This Lab had Questionable security and containment issues. The WHO was warned, Scientist who first raised the alarm, are now dead or missing. We do not know when this Virus actually started China Stopped all travel in China in and out of Wuhan, but allowed international travel.

We do not know How many in China were infected, or How many Actually Died. But it seems China somehow Confined it to the Wuhan Area. Little information about infections in the rest of China.

But it seems this Virus can infect many People without them ever even showing any Symptoms, not even a Fever. Only 82 % may have a temp. So checking People's Temps at Airports may have missed 18%. And we do not know how many or long these Symptom less People where traveling from china around the world as China Quarantine Wuhan from the rest of China.

Some information suggest this could have started in China as early as September. And there was an Illness that some People in the US had as far back as October where they had sever Flu Like Symptoms but tested Negative for either of the Known Flu's. There was no knowledge of Covid and There was no Covid testing. So We have no idea how long this Virus could have been traveling around the World, before China could not cover it up any more. Thus no idea How many People were exposed or infect Months ago and showed no Symptoms at all, or it was Mistaken for other unexplained things. Deaths blamed on the Flu or Pneumonia and or other underling complication and issues, until the World became aware of This New Chinese Virus that suddenly jumped from Bats to Humans, after decades of Chinese eating Bats. Never mind the Chinese had been Researching this very Virus in the same area this Virus suddenly made it's Jump.

We do not know How many people around the world were infected or died before the World became aware of this Virus. Much less do any definitive testing. Accidental Escape or Not China Knew, and covered it up until they could not do any more, then Lied about many things. Why was the rest of China not infected like the rest of the World? Why did the WHO lead by a Socialist Communist seemingly ignore the warning and seemingly aid China in the Cover up. Why was China corning the Market and hoarding PPE, Medications and such. Accident or not China saw an opportunity to attempt to hold the rest of the World Hostage.

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Old 04-25-2020, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ckell View Post
Hay Lunker how you doing these days, you have a PM.

While I am here might as well comment. It seems the more we know about Covid-19 The Wuhan China Virus, the more We find we know very little. It seems to Me the Chinese have been eating Bats for Decides and just now this Virus has jumped from Bat to Human.

Coincidence that there just so happens to be a partly United States Founded Viral Research Lab in the very City where this Virus is said to have originated. And They were researching this very Virus at the same time. And This Lab had Questionable security and containment issues. The WHO was warned, Scientist who first raised the alarm, are now dead or missing. We do not know when this Virus actually started China Stopped all travel in China in and out of Wuhan, but allowed international travel.

We do not know How many in China were infected, or How many Actually Died. But it seems China somehow Confined it to the Wuhan Area. Little information about infections in the rest of China.

But it seems this Virus can infect many People without them ever even showing any Symptoms, not even a Fever. Only 82 % may have a temp. So checking People's Temps at Airports may have missed 18%. And we do not know how many or long these Symptom less People where traveling from china around the world as China Quarantine Wuhan from the rest of China.

Some information suggest this could have started in China as early as September. And there was an Illness that some People in the US had as far back as October where they had sever Flu Like Symptoms but tested Negative for either of the Known Flu's. There was no knowledge of Covid and There was no Covid testing. So We have no idea how long this Virus could have been traveling around the World, before China could not cover it up any more. Thus no idea How many People were exposed or infect Months ago and showed no Symptoms at all, or it was Mistaken for other unexplained things. Deaths blamed on the Flu or Pneumonia and or other underling complication and issues, until the World became aware of This New Chinese Virus that suddenly jumped from Bats to Humans, after decades of Chinese eating Bats. Never mind the Chinese had been Researching this very Virus in the same area this Virus suddenly made it's Jump.

We do not know How many people around the world were infected or died before the World became aware of this Virus. Much less do any definitive testing. Accidental Escape or Not China Knew, and covered it up until they could not do any more, then Lied about many things. Why was the rest of China not infected like the rest of the World? Why did the WHO lead by a Socialist Communist seemingly ignore the warning and seemingly aid China in the Cover up. Why was China corning the Market and hoarding PPE, Medications and such. Accident or not China saw an opportunity to attempt to hold the rest of the World Hostage.
Very well written ckell ! One important point that is not in your post is in my opinion the biggest piece of evidence that they knew about this long ago and were hiding it. That is that China to this day has not allowed any country to come in and investigate to find the source of this virus. And like you mentioned they horded all the PPE they could get their filthy hands on BEFORE news of this virus was relayed to the world. That dirty bought and Chinese paid for head of the WHO needs to be jailed. And now he is trying to hide any correspondence between himself and China ..
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Old 04-25-2020, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SportsmanNH View Post
Very well written ckell ! One important point that is not in your post is in my opinion the biggest piece of evidence that they knew about this long ago and were hiding it. That is that China to this day has not allowed any country to come in and investigate to find the source of this virus. And like you mentioned they horded all the PPE they could get their filthy hands on BEFORE news of this virus was relayed to the world. That dirty bought and Chinese paid for head of the WHO needs to be jailed. And now he is trying to hide any correspondence between himself and China ..

Not Just the WHO President but many in the United States need to be held accountable for this or their part in it. Different subject, While I Feel those involved in the Russia Hoax, Hillary, Comey and many others should be tried for Treason, what They did, does not fall within the Constitutional Article III Section 3 Definition of Treason. However They could and should be punished, Hung, for all other Illegal Actions starting with lying under oath to a FISA Court to over turn and Election. Article III Section III US Constitution; Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

But China is a Different story, China was and is an Ally and supporter of North Korea and We are still at War with North Korea. How is or Was Joe Biden and Family Aiding China? American Companies have Financed the Chinese Communist Government while Undermining American Workers, Labor Laws, and Many US safety Regulations to turn a Personal Profit. Aided and allowed China To Obtain American Manufacturing and Production Capabilities, leaving America to fall behind, and unable to rapidly Manufacture needed Goods, Medicine and Medical Equipment. Making America Dependent on a Communist Government for most of our Manufactured goods. Even Financing The Research China was doing on this Virus for actual useful Medical Purposes or not it is a Deadly Weapon in the Communist Hands Against the Us and US security as well as World Security. Those Companies have aided an Enemy of the United States in Gaining and Controlling American Manufacturing, making America Vulnerable to and dependent on a Communist Enemy. There are many Who should be Hanged or Shot for Treason here, if that seems to Harsh, I am for Drawn and Quartered, given the Number who have Died because of this. But if that is to Harsh, Can we at least Plea Bargain it down to Some sort of Real, Meaningful Punishment, life in Prison for Aiding a Communist Enemy We are at War with and Who is taking Advantage of this Opportunity. Some Heads need to start Rolling, more than a slap on the wrist or less. Start with Drawn and Quartered and work down to Life in Prison.

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Old 04-25-2020, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Lunkerdog View Post
It ain't Armageddon yet, but go ahead an keep promoting it as such...
I am not going to respond to posts where you can't be bothered to use the quote function properly. It's too much work.

I will say this though. We have now spent $7 TRILLION dollars we do not have on bailouts... and that's beyond all the thousands of bankruptcies this country is going to experience from all this.

I don't know how much money we need for every dimwit on the internet to get how bad things are, but you let me know when we're there with you bro.

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Old 04-25-2020, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by CKELL

While I am here might as well comment. It seems the more we know about Covid-19 The Wuhan China Virus, the more We find we know very little. It seems to Me the Chinese have been eating Bats for Decides and just now this Virus has jumped from Bat to Human.

Coincidence that there just so happens to be a partly United States Founded Viral Research Lab in the very City where this Virus is said to have originated. And They were researching this very Virus at the same time. And This Lab had Questionable security and containment issues. The WHO was warned, Scientist who first raised the alarm, are now dead or missing. We do not know when this Virus actually started China Stopped all travel in China in and out of Wuhan, but allowed international travel.

We do not know How many in China were infected, or How many Actually Died. But it seems China somehow Confined it to the Wuhan Area. Little information about infections in the rest of China.

But it seems this Virus can infect many People without them ever even showing any Symptoms, not even a Fever. Only 82 % may have a temp. So checking People's Temps at Airports may have missed 18%. And we do not know how many or long these Symptom less People where traveling from china around the world as China Quarantine Wuhan from the rest of China.

Some information suggest this could have started in China as early as September. And there was an Illness that some People in the US had as far back as October where they had sever Flu Like Symptoms but tested Negative for either of the Known Flu's. There was no knowledge of Covid and There was no Covid testing. So We have no idea how long this Virus could have been traveling around the World, before China could not cover it up any more. Thus no idea How many People were exposed or infect Months ago and showed no Symptoms at all, or it was Mistaken for other unexplained things. Deaths blamed on the Flu or Pneumonia and or other underling complication and issues, until the World became aware of This New Chinese Virus that suddenly jumped from Bats to Humans, after decades of Chinese eating Bats. Never mind the Chinese had been Researching this very Virus in the same area this Virus suddenly made it's Jump.

We do not know How many people around the world were infected or died before the World became aware of this Virus. Much less do any definitive testing. Accidental Escape or Not China Knew, and covered it up until they could not do any more, then Lied about many things. Why was the rest of China not infected like the rest of the World? Why did the WHO lead by a Socialist Communist seemingly ignore the warning and seemingly aid China in the Cover up. Why was China corning the Market and hoarding PPE, Medications and such. Accident or not China saw an opportunity to attempt to hold the rest of the World Hostage.
China shut down Wuhan from the rest of China, but left the Wuhan int'l airport open for a couple weeks after the fact.

Fox news Brett Baeir reported last week the US intel agencies have "Increasing confidence" that the outbreak occurred in the lab. Chinese independent media sources reported this over a month ago. He also reported that US intel is certain that China knowingly covered up the severity of the situation.

I blame china for all this.

Democrats treason has become so common as to be routine.

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Old 04-25-2020, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Valorius View Post
I am not going to respond to posts where you can't be bothered to use the quote function properly. It's too much work. Didn't know that you were the quote function police... To much work... Or... Perhaps I posted some truth...

I will say this though. We have now spent $7 TRILLION dollars we do not have on bailouts... and that's beyond all the thousands of bankruptcies this country is going to experience from all this. How many more Bankruptcies would have happened had the money not been spent??? I'd like to see a real answer to that question... Unless that's To much work for you...

I don't know how much money we need for every dimwit on the internet to get how bad things are, but you let me know when we're there with you bro. First off, I'm not your Bro... Not sure how much money it's going to take in the end, but will say that congress, and our President have passed everything thus far... A pretty good indication of the dire state that we are in...
Not sorry if this is to much work for you... I don't expect any real answers ... But look forward to more inflammatory posts... Seem like that's what inflammatory hackers do...

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Old 04-26-2020, 10:54 AM
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I'm sure you'll be ok.

And I think the term you are looking for is 'troll.' A hacker is something else entirely.
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Old 04-26-2020, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Valorius View Post
I'm sure you'll be ok.

And I think the term you are looking for is 'troll.' A hacker is something else entirely.
Not sure that you will. Troll/Hacker, you want to play semantics? Would a hacker become a troll after they've hacked in? Tho in this case I have to say that you may have just trolled in...

Guess it's still to much work for you to answer questions...

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Old 04-28-2020, 12:32 PM
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Troll and hacker are absolutely nothing alike, they are two totally different things.

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