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Old 07-04-2019, 07:35 AM
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Majority of Republicans are Wise to Liberal Media “Fact-Checkers”






The rise of Donald Trump gave rise to another media phenomenon: The ubiquitous media “fact-checker,” employed to come out of the woodwork anytime Trump or another Republican says something that cuts against the liberal narrative. While these fact-checkers occasionally find it within themselves to “check” something particularly egregious said by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez or Bernie Sanders, they devote the majority of their time to supposedly debunking conservatives.

This, says the Pew Research Center, has not gone unnoticed by most Republican voters. According to a new poll, the vast majority of registered Republicans do not have any trust in the independence of these fact-checkers.

“As fact-checking organizations are increasingly being tapped to fight against misinformation, Republicans appear to have serious concerns about the fairness of these groups,” reports Pew. “Democrats, on the other hand, mostly think they are fair to all sides.”

Funny how that works.

A full 70% of Republicans believe that fact-checkers go out of their way to provide cover for the left while only 29% of Democrats believe these sites come to the table with bias. 69% of Democrats believe fact-checkers are fair to all political ideologies.


Even so, the fact-checkers are doing better than the larger mainstream media in terms of their reputation for honesty.

“Roughly seven-in-ten Americans (72%) say news organizations tend to favor one side when covering political and social issues – notably higher than the half who say the same about fact-checkers,” reports Pew. On the Republican side, that translates to 89% of people who say the media is biased. Strangely enough, even 57% of Democrats believe the same thing. We’d like to imagine that they aren’t idiotic enough to think the media favors conservatives, but, well…

In any event, the perception of fact-checkers and the larger media as being biased against Trump and the Republican Party isn’t going away anytime soon. Mostly because the media, instead of trying to rein in their bias, has leaned into it since Trump took office. That’s where the clickbait lies. That’s where the ratings can be found. People want to tune in, get their dose of outrage against the BAD ORANGE MAN, and tune out again. And from NBC to the Washington Post to PolitiFact, they have a neverending supply of their drug.

Not sure what these institutions are going to do with themselves once Trump is out of office, but that’s a problem we’ll leave them to figure out.
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Old 07-08-2019, 04:51 AM
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But boy howdy, are they ever fooling the left...

I have this distant relative. I argue with her on social media because: Her points of view don't rise to the level that would merit an intelligent debate; because I've a snowball's chance of changing her mind anyway; and - it's entertaining for me and for everyone else. I've noticed a pattern in her responses, as have many other relatives. She ardently believes in social justice and some utopian world where wolves and sheep live together in harmony and sing songs around the campfire at night. Oblivious to the real world outside, she's bought into the socialist narrative. Hook. Line. Sinker. Any position that doesn't complement her belief system is automatically suspect and the work of the evil Koch brothers, etc. Soros is a folk hero who is only trying to bring about her utopia, and the poor guy is being attacked by the right solely because he's Jewish. She has an EdD (which in her mind makes her more credible), however - when challenged, she'll always run home to one of these liberal fact-checkers, or a publication/writer who's known to everyone but her to be extremely left-biased. No, in spite of her "educational credentials" she's - effectively - incapable of conducting any research or testing any points of view that are out of her comfort zone.

Fortunately, she only taught adult ed classes and not impressionable children. She's an idiot. Which is what the left needs in its "true believers." If you ever want to peer into the knotted mind of the leftist machine, go read the posts on Democratic Underground. Fair warning: You may need a stiff drink afterward. The "zombie apocalypse" of non-thinking, walking, talking human carcasses is already here.

They may not be fooling the right with their "fact" checking and "research," but they sure as heck have been fooling the left.
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Old 07-08-2019, 06:07 AM
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Facts are facts...just deal with it!!!

Though I'm still amazed about how the brainwash techniques of Fox News and other conservative radio, TV and social media outlets have brainwashed a lot of U.S. citizens into believing fake news propaganda B.S. of the right wing.

They've must have taken a lesson from Goebbles & Putin's legacy of brainwashing sheep.
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Old 07-08-2019, 06:39 AM
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It's funny. I had been good friends with someone for years. She was the typical liberal. So much of what they know is just plain wrong. She made a comment that she voted for Obama because he was all for the rights of the individual. I quickly pointed put that was all words. I went on and pointed out the illegal investigations he did on the reporter's. She quickly dismissed that as being false. So I pointed out his illegal activity having the CIA spying on congress. This where it gets good. She of course denied it. Then as I was pulling up Diane Feinstein's on the floor of the Senate giving here really pissed off speech about the spying, she asked, how did they know it happened. Of course Diane in her speech states Brennan had to finally admit to the spying. So then her story changed to one, Diane Feinstein is a Republican plant, lol. Then that's the CIAs job to spy on congress. I explained no, the CIA is for foreign intelligence gathering (spying) and it's highly illegal due to separation of powers between the branches. Let's just say, all the information I gave her and told her put an immediate short circuit in her brain. We're no longer on talking terms.

Yep, many for years knew the fact check sites are all left sites to cover for Democrats. They're slowly being exposed because even the left now doesn't trust the main stream media. They're tuning out. This weekend I saw an article showing the Sunday shows are o the ropes. I don't expect some if not all will be around for too much longer. They only are getting 2.5 million viewers combined I believe. Not paying the Bill's
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Old 07-08-2019, 08:08 AM
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I have for some time disregarded the utterances of liberal/progressive politicians and the press. In a related vein, I do not place faith in todays educational institutions. I feel that most often what educational institutions promote today is an excellent compass -- a compass for steering 180 degrees in the opposite direction. This does create some problems. How do you interact with the world around you? How do you learn about the world around you? One of the things I do is read the writings of old and ancient writers -- writings prior to 1900 mostly. Our modern world has amputated its intellectual life from a very vigorous and deeply wise body of classical writings. Those writings are not studied in high school (sorry, reading 2-4 plays by Shakespeare, while good in their own right, is not enough) and not studied in college.

I used to wrestle with what was said by the media and politicians, desire to prove them wrong, try to discern whether possibly they are right and I am wrong. I have given up that view of things. I disregard and tune-out their utterances just as one would tune out the ravings of a lunatic or the propagandistic nonsense of one's most savage enemy. I grant NO presumption of truth or validity to what they say. And in that context there simply is no reason to pay attention to them at all.

My children have largely passed through the educational institutions at this point. The question arises "how shall my children be educated going forwards?" More specifically, in my case, how are my grandchildren to be educated? I've got three children and no grandchildren at this point, but I'm assuming grandchildren are coming. My son is a lawyer in "Big Law" and is already talking about home schooling any children he may have. Not sending his children to private schools -- which as an attorney in "Big Law" he could well afford to do. But even private schools are foundering and losing direction. Hence home schooling.
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Old 07-08-2019, 08:14 AM
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(continuing my thoughts begun in my previous post) There now are many good resources available for home schooling. It is increasingly becoming a viable option for educating one's children. Something to bear in mind when thinking about this subject is just how ABYSMALLY dysfunctional public school systems are today. It does not take much to improve upon what the public schools accomplish today, even in good affluent communities. I believe that because of the maladaptation of public schools that home schooling -- if undertaken with discipline, reflection, and in cooperation with like minded other parents -- can prepare children just as well and more likely far better than public schools today can. Vive la revolution!!!
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Old 07-08-2019, 11:42 AM
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Anytime a "fact" is supported or contradicted by a percentage, you need to look deeper. Statistics are great, but in the wrong hands you can make anything seem legit, and support it. Cherry picking facts allows this.
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Old 07-09-2019, 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Alsatian View Post
I used to wrestle with what was said by the media and politicians, desire to prove them wrong, try to discern whether possibly they are right and I am wrong. I have given up that view of things. I disregard and tune-out their utterances just as one would tune out the ravings of a lunatic or the propagandistic nonsense of one's most savage enemy. I grant NO presumption of truth or validity to what they say. And in that context there simply is no reason to pay attention to them at all.
This … is what wisdom looks like.

What many on the left are presuming is that their own addiction to friendly-minded media is offset on the right by outlets such as Fox News. What they're not factoring in is that many have long ago abandoned the propaganda machines. We're perfectly capable of asking our own questions, and then seeking the answers on our own … IF … it's even an issue that matters to us. So much of what's on MSM today is no more than filler to hook us into watching the next segment (and its ads). So it should be treated.
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