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Old 03-25-2018, 09:21 AM
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The DEM Platform is supported by two core pillars:
1. "Never let a good tragedy go to waste."
2. "Never, ever give up."

If this appears to be and reeks of the Socialist/Communist theology, it's because IT IS Socialist/Communist theology! There are eerie similarities between the DEM leadership and the regimes of Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler and Ho Chi Minh, to name a few!

None of the above were instant successes! It took them ! decades of preaching the same messages over and over again! Marx and Hitler were even exiled and imprisoned, and never abandoned their cause!

I've contrasted the DEM's and these historical leaders, not to insult the intelligence of Democratic voters, but to make a couple of points to all Americans. Not only to the Democrats, but also to the Conservatives and especially the fence-riding Rhino's!

I still, (perhaps naively so,) do not believe that many Americans would vote for the regimes above! The false promises, dividing one against the other, propaganda and increasingly low tolerance for free speech and opposition are once again on the rise!

With the recent tragedies in Vegas and Florida and the protest marches, I believe we are seeing “A PERFECT STORM,” for the DEM leadership!

"Never let a good tragedy go to waste." "Never, ever give up!"
The DEM’s have been losing votes on gun control for decades! Had the Republicans lost the first fight, they would have gave up and moved on! Finally, by sticking with their fight, the DEM’s finally found a PERFECT STORM to seize upon the emotions of teenagers to do their bidding!
If the Rhino’s don’t grow a backbone and do what they were elected to do, once these teens get to voting age, we will be doomed as a Republic!
Our leadership is squandering control of the WH, Senate and House of Representatives, with precious little to show for it! It's not Trump's fault, but he is getting almost NO help from the Rhino's!

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Old 03-25-2018, 11:49 AM
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It helps to make people think when you ask them what's next? Absolute gun control won't eliminate absolute gun violence or even school massacres. So if all legal guns were eliminated, what would be their next idea to solve the problem? Many people want a simplified problem and solution and don't want to put much time or effort into thinking something through long term and considering the long term consequences. Short term solutions rarely fix long term or complex problems. And the Dems only win when people think short term or not at all and instead only respond with their emotions.
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Old 03-25-2018, 12:05 PM
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The anti-gun crowd seems to be winning this battle, like it or not. The pro-gun folks have been out to lunch when the school shooting messaging battle was on and they have handed us our head. There will be some more gun restrictions soon and I see a long slippery slope ahead.
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I agree! I'm beginning to think that this is the most serious 2nd. Amendment threat since the klintoon "assault weapons ban!"
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Well now that is a hoot! Jenks, it is people of your ilk who are pushing this nonsense. It is liberals who are the threat to the Republic and the Constitution. Perhaps it is time you make a decision to be an American or a liberal. The last thing I want to hear is a caution or a warning from one of the people who is responsible for this madness. Either you are for liberty or you are not. Liberals historically are not!
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I believe the times are changing and there isn't much we can do about it other than shudder every time the news breaks about another nut job killing students. The absolute answer is to make schools safe with armed guards and electronic metal detection which would cost money. That alone will cause the solution to be off in the future and a focus on the wrong answer...gun control. The NRA won't be signing many from the Columbine generation which will cause them some shrinkage with less power. My prediction is that gun control will be a major issue in 2020 and beyond. All those protesting high schoolers will be of voting age and few of them are pro gun. Picking up my new S&W 637 tomorrow. Get them while you can is my plan.

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Old 03-25-2018, 05:35 PM
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You folks need to turn off the "news" and go shooting. Just because they are loud does not mean they are in the majority and believe me the democrat-media complex is doing everything it can to make it appear is if there is strong sentiment for more gun control. But the exact opposite is what is happening. Guns are more popular than ever, especially AR-15s. Yes the grabbers are making a lot of noise right now but next week they will be on to something else.
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Old 03-25-2018, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RobertSubnet View Post
You folks need to turn off the "news" and go shooting. Just because they are loud does not mean they are in the majority and believe me the democrat-media complex is doing everything it can to make it appear is if there is strong sentiment for more gun control. But the exact opposite is what is happening. Guns are more popular than ever, especially AR-15s. Yes the grabbers are making a lot of noise right now but next week they will be on to something else.
I agree with you up to a point! No, the sky is NOT falling! Giving up IS NOT an option either! But after a couple of generations of liberal schools and lower moral standards, we Conservatives need to start playing hard-ball, BEFORE it's "game over!"
All the talk of the last year about the Russians this, and the Russians that! It reminded me of what the Ruskies said during the Cold War: "we will conquer America, without firing a shot!" Allowing them to infiltrate our institutions is like loading and cocking the gun for them! Allowing it to continue without a fight, would be like pulling the trigger for the Leftist's too!
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The anti-gun crowd seems to be winning this battle, like it or not. The pro-gun folks have been out to lunch when the school shooting messaging battle was on and they have handed us our head. There will be some more gun restrictions soon and I see a long slippery slope ahead.
"Seems to be?" According to who? The media talking heads who are feeding you what they want you to believe?

The anti-gun crowd want an easy solution. Get rid of "assault rifles" (I'm not going to get wrapped around definitions here), and when THAT doesn't stop school shootings, get rid of handguns, and when THAT doesn't stop school shootings, get rid of all that's left. The anti-gun crowd wants what THEY think will be easy and dangumit, they want it right NOW!

And whether some of us have doubts about MECHANICAL features of firearms or not, the message from the other camp is the same: "Your hobby does not take precedence over my safety." They refuse to reconcile the fact that the HUMAN component of this issue is largely one that THEY, the liberals to tend to dominate the anti-gun crowd, created:

Let's keep disturbed kids in "the least restrictive environment" at school. Let's help people not face consequences for making poor/antisocial decisions. Let's destigmatize dangerous mental illnesses. Let's make it easier to create co-parent families made up of parents who couldn't resolve conflict between each other teach their kids how to resolve conflict. Let's promote baby-mama culture and give it public assistance.

Until such time as those liberal, "feelgood" policies and their disastrous but largely ignored downstream results come to the table as well in an honest, open discussion, we - as gunowners - don't have any obligation to participate. They want ALL guns, make no mistake.
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The argument that not getting rid of high capacity high impact AR's etc will reduce mass shootings makes no sense to me.

I am not an advocate of getting rid of guns. I own many for sport and shooting. I am a STRONG advocate of getting the AR's etc out of the public's hands.

My argument being, in the instances where they are used, lots of people will die before anything can be done to stop the killing. How many? IDK is the number 10-15 before action to stop the crime can happen. No chance that nut jobs will be stopped with tighter controls. Holes in those systems are like a storm drain. To me it is all about the volume of killing that occurs with this type weapon that was specifically designed to kill lots of HUMANS as fast as possible. No need for civilians to have them. Lots of blood on the ground before anything can happen.

The argument that lots of people are killed by sticks, rocks, cars, handguns, knives etc etc is stupid.

Like going to a hospital for a cure of skin cancer and having the hospital state that we are not going to address your problem because lots of people die from Lung cancer so we are not going to help you.

One final note, I surround myself on a regular basis with voting Democrats where most of them are gun owners. I don't ever hear anyone stating that this is a plan to get rid of all guns. That is all just NRA BS spewed out to their followers to get them rallied.
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