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Old 06-02-2017, 09:18 PM
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With the past 18 months and the 2016 elections, (especially the last 6 months) in the history books, America really stands at a crossroad that it has not faced since the Civil War!
MAKE NO MISTAKE!
The leftist, socialist, communist, snowflake's and their cronies in the DNC elite and the Media-Hollywood types have removed ALL DOUBT about their true agenda!
DESTROY AMERICA and the AMERICAN CONSTITUTION!
MAYBE, they just don't see it as "DESTROYING AMERICA and the AMERICAN CONSTITUTION!
They see it as making the world "equal!" (You know, open borders and love everyone, everyone loves us, bring the world up and bring us down, so EVERYONE is equal and we can all live happily ever after!)
In several of the last election cycles, Conservative, Patriotic Americans have said, "it won't happen, it can't happen!"
Well, darn it, IT HAS HAPPENED!
With what the LEFT has shone in the last 6 months, THEY are for REAL!
The question now is: IS CONSTITUTIONAL AMERICAN PATRIOTISM for real?
At the risk of being labeled a "pessimist,"
I must ask the question: Are you for us, or against us?
I'm afraid this time, THERE IS NO FENCE TO RIDE!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 06-03-2017, 04:57 AM
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The question now is: IS CONSTITUTIONAL AMERICAN PATRIOTISM for real?
It is to me. Can't speak for the rest of you but the Constitution is still very important to me. I spent a quarter of a century under an oath to protect it from enemies both foreign and domestic.

I'd love to see then dust off the 10th Amendment and start kicking stuff to the states like they are supposed to. That amendment shows that the Founding Fathers didn't intend for the govt to be involved in everything and I think we need to return to that line of thinking.

As always, feel free to disagree. After all the Constitution says you can express yourself any way you want, so have at it.
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Old 06-03-2017, 06:50 AM
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I am forever thankful for you and all those who have served to protect America!
I too miss the America that we grew up in! We should have taken it back long ago!
Hopefully, we can take it back with ballots and sound "reason." Unfortunately, there are those who will not listen to "sound reasoning," as witnessed by the rioting and threats from the left!
Whether or not they realize it, they are not only trampling the First Amendment, they are trampling the whole Constitution! Once the Constitution is gone, it's gone forever!
IF they are ever successful, I'm afraid they'll soon regret the border-less, international, peace and lovey-dovey society that takes Americas place!
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All this liberal garbage will do nothing at the polls. I bet many of them didn't vote last November. It makes me look forward to voting to hurt their feelings. I'm sure millions feel the same way.
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All this liberal garbage will do nothing at the polls. I bet many of them didn't vote last November. It makes me look forward to voting to hurt their feelings. I'm sure millions feel the same way.

From what I see around me (I'm 27 so maybe a little more in touch with the younger generation than many members here..) this isn't true. The young libs are extremely involved and vocal, as well as making sure they get out and vote. I had libs knock on my door asking if I was registered, and I received phone calls from libs asking if I was registered, the only call I got from the right before the election was the NRA. I see allot of pro 2A things on facebook and on bumper stickers, but I see more libs actually doing something than I do conservatives. We won this one... but what about 4 years from now... or even a bigger jump what about 20 years from now when all these libs have raised voting aged kids of their own. I think allot of what we see to be true depends on where we live and who is around us. But the fact is the libs have more younger voters than conservatives do and people die. 20 years from now where will the republican party be.

If I remember correctly the numbers were something like around 60% of millennials lean democrat. That spells trouble for the right in the near future unless we can change it.

That's if you believe the published stats I suppose.
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Old 06-03-2017, 12:47 PM
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It's been said (and apparently falsely attributed to Winston Churchill) that a man who is not a socialist at 20 has no heart whereas a man who is not a conservative at 40 has no brain. Regardless of who first uttered these words, the saying properly points out how many (not all) people grow up and get wiser.

Jake, those younger people you're familiar with are largely either in college or just getting started in their careers. Most of them probably don't have kids and many are probably unmarried and, statistically, still living at home with their parents. It's much easier to be generous with other people's money (taxes, etc.) when you don't make much money, aren't paying many bills (still living with one's parents) and aren't responsible for raising (and paying for) a family of children with a wife who may or may not work due to family decision-making.

When those same Millenials have moved out from their parents' houses, are paying college loans off, are married and paying for kids and trying to save up for cars and college for their kids while trying to impress on their kids how hard it is to pay for student loans for college; then many of those "liberal" Millenials will most likely revise their financial priorities and decide how much they want to be on the hook for other people who just want to sit on that proverbial front porch.

It doesn't mean all of them will turn conservative but it does mean that more of them will either turn conservative or at least move somewhere in the middle and vote no on more taxes.

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Old 06-03-2017, 01:43 PM
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That's a very good point Cal. And hopefully it proves true. Cause I can't imagine how the country would make it if these libs have their way. Half of what they say and think doesn't even make sense. But it's like they're completely blind to that
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Most of these young adults will become conservative once they get older. Personally I Iabel the 2016-2017 hipster crowd as passionately vocal politcal progressives. In a year or two they might be too cool to care about politics.
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Jake, everything always sounds good when somebody else (parents, school, government, etc.) is paying for it and you don't have to decide on what you're giving up and how much you have to work to pay for it. When you have to pay for it yourself, you generally tend to realize what you can afford or not and if it's even worth it. We all go through this as we go through life.

For instance, consider what kind of car/truck you wanted when you were almost 16 versus what you would like or are driving now. Those muscle cars still speak to me but I can fit my family in my truck, haul supplies for construction projects and even make trips to the dump. At some point, my truck is even likely to be hauling an ATV for hunting. Definitely much harder to do with a muscle car.
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Old 06-03-2017, 04:26 PM
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Going back to the OP's post, we are so incredibly lucky to be where we are politically. I know people are getting upset at the liberals but consider a few things about the current state of affairs and you will realize that we are looking at a golden opportunity.

If you look at the liberal rage occurring from Kathy Griffin to BLM, they are blowing it big time. If you had tried to accuse the libs of being crazy prior to the last 6 months, let alone the past year, most people would disagree and give you some version of there are 2 sides to every topic and you're just demonizing the other side.

Now, all you have to do is point at Griffin and say can you imagine somebody holding up a bloody severed head look alike for a sitting President, making fun of the President's son for getting upset and then having the nerve to complain that you're being bullied? If you tried to make something like that up, people would accuse you of creating tall tales, etc. Now all you have to do is show them a link and point out that Griffin is complaining about being victimized.

Or any of the other crazy stuff that you just can't make up and the Dems obviously cannot justify, let alone develop political support for their agenda. You don't even have to say Republican or Democrat, conservative or liberal. Just ask younger people (Millennials) and even quite a few older people if they support this crazy idea or that one. Most of them don't. If you take away the labels and the "sports team" irrational mentality and ask people to focus on issues and positions taken, many of them don't support the liberal agenda which continues to get wacky and wackier. If you tell them to vote for their beliefs about given issues and positions, most will vote properly, regardless of how they're registered to vote.

Your quoted article worries about the libs jumping off of a cliff basically. I'm happy they're finally showing some of their true colors. We no longer have to tell people what libs are like; instead, we can just point to their crazy behavior and positions and say, don't make this about me--just look at what they do and say and who they really are.
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