NRA pushing hard for a national reciprocity carry law
05-03-2017, 09:41 AM
#31
Nontypical Buck
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Originally Posted by rockport
Those signs are absolutely not unconstitutional and its a fact not an opinion.
If you want rights you have to respect other peoples rights.
They are not forcing you to do anything......you have every right to simply not go on their property but if you choose to go on their property it is on you to respect their right to make their own rules.
Do you own property? If so do you allow people to exercise any constitutional right they want on your property? Can I pursue happiness by hunting on your property? If I come in your house do I have the freedom to say/do whatever I want or do I have to respect your rules even if I disagree with them?
If you want rights you have to respect other peoples rights.
They are not forcing you to do anything......you have every right to simply not go on their property but if you choose to go on their property it is on you to respect their right to make their own rules.
Do you own property? If so do you allow people to exercise any constitutional right they want on your property? Can I pursue happiness by hunting on your property? If I come in your house do I have the freedom to say/do whatever I want or do I have to respect your rules even if I disagree with them?
05-03-2017, 09:46 AM
#32
Boone & Crockett
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You need to learn what a public space is. Hint, it is not a privately owned store. You also need to understand what the bill of rights does. I have tried as nicely as I know how to explain why what you believe is incorrect and why the Constitution does apply to owners of private property in so far as allowing you to carry a firearm on their property to no avail. So before this gets testy ot I get testy, I am leaving this conversation
Last edited by Oldtimr; 05-03-2017 at 09:52 AM.
05-03-2017, 09:51 AM
#33
Nontypical Buck
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Originally Posted by Oldtimr
You need to learn what a public space is. Hint, it is not a privately owned store. You also need to understand what the bill of rights does. I can see any further discussion would be pointless because you are not willing to learn.
05-03-2017, 10:21 AM
#35
Nontypical Buck
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Originally Posted by Oldtimr
Actually muzzlestuffer, any business has the same right to tell you not to carry a gun in their business, the same as you have that right to tell people not to come into your home armed and it has nothing to do with violating the constitution. If they tell you to leave with the gun and you don't, it is trespassing. Don't confuse the Constitution with property rights
05-03-2017, 12:28 PM
#37
Nontypical Buck
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Originally Posted by muzzlestuffer
All I'm saying is if it's open to the public then I should have the right to carry. my house is not open to the public! A man's castle is a whole different animal.look at all the shootings at restaurants and malls you can follow those signs if you want but I won't !
05-03-2017, 12:56 PM
#39
Nontypical Buck
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Originally Posted by muzzlestuffer
Entitled what are you talking about ?
You are basically saying you think private businesses should have to allow black lives matter to hold protest inside of their businesses because the constitution gives them freedom of speech.
Last edited by rockport; 05-03-2017 at 01:22 PM.
05-03-2017, 01:38 PM
#40
Nontypical Buck
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Originally Posted by rockport
It means you think you have the right to(are entitled to) the services of privately owned businesses.
You are basically saying you think private businesses should have to allow black lives matter to hold protest inside of their businesses because the constitution gives them freedom of speech.
You are basically saying you think private businesses should have to allow black lives matter to hold protest inside of their businesses because the constitution gives them freedom of speech.
