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Old 04-27-2016, 08:36 AM
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Here's a good article that describes Ted Cruz's greatest skill of all- lying.

So how can we tell when Ted Cruz is lying?

By Jennifer Rubin December 18, 2015

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) defended his role in the 2013 immigration battles Thursday, telling reporters at a rally here that the Republican “establishment” was misleading people about why he introduced an amendment to penalize workers in the United States illegally.

“Let me use a Las Vegas analogy, from poker,” said Cruz. “It’s called ‘calling their bluff.’ Listen, the Democrats and the establishment Republicans who supported the Gang of Eight — they claimed they cared about the people who were here illegally. And so I introduced an amendment that made anyone here illegally permanently ineligible for citizenship. That amendment called their bluff, because it revealed that the members of the Gang of Eight were hypocrites.”

To put it differently, Cruz told multiple members of the media and his colleagues that he really wanted legalization but that was not true. It was a lie because he did not want legalization or any other bill. That’s the excuse?

In listening to Cruz’s remarks in 2013, one cannot miss how sincere and earnest Cruz sounds. He was so convincing that multiple reports at the time portrayed him as trying to reach agreement on legalization. He gave no wink, no hint he was really a virulent opponent of immigration reform. He sure got a couple of members of the Gang of 8 to think he wanted a bill. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) is quoted as saying Thursday, “You can only take people by their words. His words were clear that passage of that amendment would improve the chances of passage of the bill. He made that clear and he made both on the floor and off the floor.”

The take-away, then, is that he is an extraordinary liar — either then in convincing people he was sincere or now in trying to convince people he was not. (I have no idea which it is.) For a guy running against those scoundrels inside the Beltway, Cruz seems to outdo his colleagues when it comes to telling people whatever they want to hear.

Longtime Cruz watchers are well aware that Cruz excels at being entirely disingenuous:

Cal Jillson, a longtime political analyst at Southern Methodist University in Texas, has watched Cruz’s climb in politics and notes the ease in which Cruz can shift, crediting his days as a lawyer and early years as a Princeton debate team champion.

“He can say whatever he chooses to say, even when changing his views, without blinking an eye or looking like he’s under pressure or trying to remember what his new position is,” Jillson said. “With less facile politicians, you can see the gears turning in their head when they used to believe one thing and want to say another.”

And really, Cruz’s character was the point of probing all this, both in the debate and the back-and-forth that has gone on since then. We know that Cruz currently rails against “amnesty” (though won’t say if he would favor a Donald Trump-esque roundup of millions) and that Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) no longer wants a single, comprehensive bill but instead wants to pursue border control, next fix the legal immigration system and then set up conditions for a path to citizenship. We know where Rubio stands, but figuring out what Cruz is really for and how far he’d go to get it is impossible. This really is a guy who will say whatever needs to be said at any moment to further his political prospects. (It’s the same on the NSA metadata program: Then, he bragged he was curtailing the government’s power and now, he falsely claims his vote was to expand our surveillance abilities.)

This has been the dig all along against Cruz, namely that excessive ambition mixed with insincerity stands out, even in the U.S. Senate. Someone so boastful of his commitment to conservative ideology seems to have no ideology other than self-advancement. He can rationalize his contradictions all he likes, playing the word games to rival Bill Clinton, but he cannot avoid the appearance is that of a slippery pol who thinks he is smarter than the rest of us. No wonder his colleagues dislike him so intensely. And no wonder the Rubio team has been licking its lips, waiting to pounce with piles of research demonstrating Cruz’s habitual disingenuousness. (“Cruz’s response [to Rubio] highlights his greatest weakness: he’s just too slick and self-aggrandizing.”)

Conservative columnist Peter Wehner remarks on Cruz’s bobbing and weaving:

Senator Cruz, for reasons of political expediency, now opposes something that two years ago he supported. That’s not admirable, but it’s not unheard of in politics. What makes things a good deal worse for the junior senator from Texas is that he’s dissembling about his record — and then he has the gall to (in the context of a discussion about surveillance) upbraid Rubio, saying “Marco knows what he’s saying isn’t true.” In psychology, what Senator Cruz is engaging in is known as projection — and combining it with dishonesty is a rather troubling mix, particularly for someone who wants to be president. . . .

It would be a shame if those who claim to be defenders of conservatism decide that they can distort truth and reality to get the man they want. Because the man they want may, in the end, do considerable damage to the principles and virtues they claim to cherish, like the traditional belief that truth exists independent of what we hope for and the political candidates we are drawn to.

The campaign bumper sticker could read, “Cruz, the postmodern conservative!” At any rate, the point has been made: Cruz is so effective at misleading voters one cannot tell when, if ever, he is being sincere. If he can lie with such ease and “reframe” his views so readily, how will Congress and the American people trust him?
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Old 04-27-2016, 08:53 AM
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Really? I'm going to be forced to debate google?

Ted Cruz on legalization. It was clearly calling their bluff move and its called putting them on record. Remember, why the gang of eight wanted amnesty? To get people out of the shadows. Do you remember those arguments? Cruz called their bluff. OK, they can get legalization just like you want. They can never vote in our elections. What's wrong with that? They voted against the bill, why? His bill wouldn't even be nescessasry had the gang of eight, five of which Trump backed their candidancy for office, ever introduced their bill. Where was Trump when Cruz was fighting tooth and nail to kill it? Where is trump today on Amenasty? He is all for it with a little hitch, they must leave and then comeback legally. And if they don't? Then what? Will Trump cave to the little they must leave part? Remember, the NYT has the tape of Trump reportedly saying his position isn't such hardline. It's only campaign talk. Why aren't you demanding Trump release that recording?
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The most recent Ted Cruz lie, and a very blatant one at that:

http://gawker.com/ted-cruz-weve-caug...lie-1773630713
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Really, google again? Now we're going to left wing hit pieces?
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And yet another:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...death-threats/


This guy simply has no morals! Unbelievable!
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Where was the lie in this one?
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Oh, and no, I did not use Google, not once today, if you must know.
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Originally Posted by Fieldmouse View Post
Where was the lie in this one?
The entire thing is a lie. Call it a scam if you prefer that over the word "lie." It's a scam by Cruz in an attempt to bring in more money under false pretenses.
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Really, so you went to these hit sites directly did you? It hasn't gone unnoticed you aren't prepared as I pointed out to even discuss these hack jobs. You're really trying to stretch false information. Is this how you did your homework in school? Turned in someone else's?
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Originally Posted by bdan68 View Post
The entire thing is a lie. Call it a scam if you prefer that over the word "lie." It's a scam by Cruz in an attempt to bring in more money under false pretenses.
That would be a federal crime called wire fraud. People go to jail for that. Have you been in contact to with justice department? I'm sure the Obama administration would love to hear about this one. Don't you?
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