Go Back  HuntingNet.com Forums > Non Hunting > Politics
So, it wasn't about earning more but more about working less >

So, it wasn't about earning more but more about working less

Politics Nothing goes with politics quite like crying and complaining, and we're a perfect example of that.

So, it wasn't about earning more but more about working less

Old 07-25-2015, 05:02 PM
  #1  
Dominant Buck
Thread Starter
 
Fieldmouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 37,814
Default So, it wasn't about earning more but more about working less

SEATTLE SEES UNEXPECTED FALLOUT FROM $15 PER HOUR MIN. WAGE
wage
by WARNER TODD HUSTON
24 Jul 2015
Seattle, WA57,470
Low wage workers in Seattle who spent months agitating for a city-wide $15-per-hour minimum wage were quite successful in their quest. But many have suddenly found that the new rate has had unexpected consequences.

Some workers across the city are left telling bosses to give them fewer hours at the higher wage because a full week’s earnings now puts them past the threshold for some welfare payments such as food stamps and assistance with rent.

Of course, one of the things that supporters of the higher wage said was that they wanted to help lift min. wage workers out of poverty and welfare.

Only last week, for instance, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti claimed that a $15 min. wage in his city would lift 600,000 out of poverty. Self-avowed socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT)16%
, a VT Senator and a candidate for the Democrat nomination in 2016, also recently claimed that a $15 min. wage would “lift millions” of Americans out of poverty, off welfare, and into the buying public.

But now some workers in Seattle are finding that the higher wage is forcing them off the welfare programs they would rather stay enrolled in and, instead of celebrating their higher income, they are imposing fewer work hours on themselves in order to stay on assistance.

Seattle’s KIRO-TV recently spoke to a nursing nonprofit that admitted that some workers are trying to cut hours and earn less to avoid losing assistance. In another case, a local radio station has been talking about the story.

“If they cut down their hours to stay on those subsidies because the $15 per hour minimum wage didn’t actually help get them out of poverty, all you’ve done is put a burden on the business and given false hope to a lot of people,” said KIRO-FM’s Jason Rantz said this week.

There have been other unforeseen consequences to the higher wage. Some restaurants are tacking on a 15 percent surcharge onto customer’s bills in order to avoid firing workers.

Other stores, restaurants, and small businesses are simply closing down because they can’t afford the wage hike. By March of this year, for instance, restaurant closings increased at a much higher than average rate in Seattle.

Many restaurants noted that the new wage put labor costs at nearly 50 percent of operating costs, and that made profit margins disappear.

Follow Warner Todd Huston on Twitter @warnerthuston or email the author at [email protected]
Fieldmouse is offline  
Old 07-26-2015, 03:43 AM
  #2  
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: idaho
Posts: 2,773
Default

lol. that there is funny. if you can't see the humour in that, all is lost.
kidoggy is offline  
Old 07-26-2015, 03:56 AM
  #3  
Dominant Buck
 
Champlain Islander's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: On an Island in Vermont
Posts: 21,862
Default

Goes to show many of the people in that economic class are there by choice. Low level job without many requirements to show up on time every day and still get all kinds of lifestyle perks.
Champlain Islander is offline  
Old 07-26-2015, 04:23 AM
  #4  
Dominant Buck
Thread Starter
 
Fieldmouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 37,814
Default

It's funny you say that Kid. You read old Berne running on the $15 minimum. You can't really combat that with commercials. The right could run them and say, Berni wants to cut your welfare payments. Of course Berni will say no, you get to work less and stay home with the kids more whiles still receiving your welfare benifits.

Actually, the teachable moment in all this really is at the other end of the spectrum. The lefties (and many independents) on here have never seen a tax increase on anyone above their own pay grade, that they dont like. They assume the rich are too dumb to shift their investing or mney making risks in order to reduce any exposure to the tax increase. I've posted countless examples over the years of this very thing.

Well if the poor are smart enough to shift their lifestyle in order to remain getting free bennies, don't those who cheer on higher taxes for the rich realize, the rich maybe just a little more intelligent than the poor?
Fieldmouse is offline  
Old 07-26-2015, 04:34 AM
  #5  
Little Doe Peep
 
sachiko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Japan
Posts: 14,945
Unhappy

These people are not stupid. They know how to manage their careers.

I have to admit, it did not occur to me that minimum wage workers would opt for working fewer hours in order to keep receiving the same level of public assistance.

Same pay for half the work. Makes sense.
sachiko is offline  
Old 07-26-2015, 04:39 AM
  #6  
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: idaho
Posts: 2,773
Default

Originally Posted by Fieldmouse View Post
It's funny you say that Kid. You read old Berne running on the $15 minimum. You can't really combat that with commercials. The right could run them and say, Berni wants to cut your welfare payments. Of course Berni will say no, you get to work less and stay home with the kids more whiles still receiving your welfare benifits.

Actually, the teachable moment in all this really is at the other end of the spectrum. The lefties (and many independents) on here have never seen a tax increase on anyone above their own pay grade, that they dont like. They assume the rich are too dumb to shift their investing or mney making risks in order to reduce any exposure to the tax increase. I've posted countless examples over the years of this very thing.

Well if the poor are smart enough to shift their lifestyle in order to remain getting free bennies, don't those who cheer on higher taxes for the rich realize, the rich maybe just a little more intelligent than the poor?
make no mistake the poor are not stupid. they are quite adept at working the system. they understand that just fine.truth is , they are just lazy and unwilling to put forth an effort , when they can get someone else to do it for them.
the evil rich understand that hard work will improve your financial situation and are willing to work to get MORE. in this sense the rich are smarter then the poor.

the poor continue to drain money from the rich, so I do however, ponder at times, which group is the most intelligent. the workers or the lazy.




2 THESSALONIANS 3
Those Who Are Lazy

3 1-3 One more thing, friends: Pray for us. Pray that the Master’s Word will simply take off and race through the country to a groundswell of response, just as it did among you. And pray that we’ll be rescued from these scoundrels who are trying to do us in. I’m finding that not all “believers” are believers. But the Master never lets us down. He’ll stick by you and protect you from evil.

4-5 Because of the Master, we have great confidence in you. We know you’re doing everything we told you and will continue doing it. May the Master take you by the hand and lead you along the path of God’s love and Christ’s endurance.

6-9 Our orders—backed up by the Master, Jesus—are to refuse to have anything to do with those among you who are lazy and refuse to work the way we taught you. Don’t permit them to freeload on the rest. We showed you how to pull your weight when we were with you, so get on with it. We didn’t sit around on our hands expecting others to take care of us. In fact, we worked our fingers to the bone, up half the night moonlighting so you wouldn’t be burdened with taking care of us. And it wasn’t because we didn’t have a right to your support; we did. We simply wanted to provide an example of diligence, hoping it would prove contagious.

10-13 Don’t you remember the rule we had when we lived with you? “If you don’t work, you don’t eat.” And now we’re getting reports that a bunch of lazy good-for-nothings are taking advantage of you. This must not be tolerated. We command them to get to work immediately—no excuses, no arguments—and earn their own keep. Friends, don’t slack off in doing your duty.

14-15 If anyone refuses to obey our clear command written in this letter, don’t let him get by with it. Point out such a person and refuse to subsidize his freeloading. Maybe then he’ll think twice. But don’t treat him as an enemy. Sit him down and talk about the problem as someone who cares.

16 May the Master of Peace himself give you the gift of getting along with each other at all times, in all ways. May the Master be truly among you!

17 I, Paul, bid you good-bye in my own handwriting. I do this in all my letters, so examine my signature as proof that the letter is genuine.

18 The incredible grace of our Master, Jesus Christ, be with all of you!
kidoggy is offline  
Old 07-26-2015, 08:36 AM
  #7  
Giant Nontypical
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 9,225
Default

Liberalism lunacy exposed!
flags is offline  
Old 07-26-2015, 10:10 AM
  #8  
Giant Nontypical
 
C. Davis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Kountze, Texas
Posts: 5,158
Default

Why would anybody vote for the party of the minimum wage?
Bernie is honest if you listen to him.
$15.00 an hour = "Lifted out of poverty."
If he had his way, we would all be making $15.00 an hour.

C. Davis
C. Davis is offline  
Old 07-26-2015, 11:03 AM
  #9  
Super Moderator
 
CalHunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Northern California
Posts: 18,169
Default

This unforeseen and unintended consequence does make for interesting discussion. I wonder what the leaders of the $15/HR minimum wage crowd are going to say now? Something similar to the Obamacare claim about having more time for family and personal pursuits?
CalHunter is offline  
Old 07-26-2015, 01:08 PM
  #10  
Dominant Buck
Thread Starter
 
Fieldmouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 37,814
Default

They will ignore it. Time to move along.
Fieldmouse is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.