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Old 07-05-2014, 11:25 AM
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Traditions of and about men and women came about for practical reasons. Designed to accommodate the small villages, tribes of those times, where the women cared for the children of the tribe, it was natural, (today it is known as welfare). Men hunted and protected the tribe and its resources. Those things became instinctual, each generation strengthening the next.
Children need and require love for the lack of a better term, but all children require more than a full belly. In filling that need and role that women played, they became more socialistic in nature it insured the survival of a larger number of the tribe. More emotionally attuned to the many needs of those children. Short term solutions based on those emotions, knee jerk often emotionally vicious reactions to immediate dangers and problems that arose. With vicious emotional long term solutions to short term problems (today ban all guns). They learned to make alliances with those they did not like or trust. They learned a different art of deception. The art of Deception in war is one thing, but there is another. It can be just as dangerous, but not just for the enemy. Women and children were often assimilated into and better at adapting into conquering tribes, much more so than the men, and teenage males.
The male and female children were raised to follow those practical traditions. Females raised to do the traditional work and the ways they worked or worked around men. They talked among and depended on each other for their emotional support that was not the traditional role of the men. The men worried about the safety and welfare of the tribe in a different way. One that involved a different set of emotions. Women ran the house/ home, men ran the village and made decisions based on resources, movements of those resources, movements of rival tribes, enemies. They made alliances using a different set of emotions. Men being raised in how best to do such things with a better understanding of how to protect, and fight for their way of life and for their lives as well as the tribe, made the decisions that where important to the overall survival of the tribe.
Women ran the home and had a better understanding of how best to do that, and care for the village. But in the end when times got very hard, it was each women protecting herself and her own children. Women did and will band together to protect the village children and do it with all they have, a real viciousness But as times get hard it becomes, more each for themselves. Make deals and alliances that benefit her and her children. Women are not held to the same standards as men for more or less being a traitor, if it can be seen as for the children.
Women having no real idea of the whole defense and protection, hunting, and given they would make decisions on an emotional bases, tending to better serve themselves, it was a practical thing not to include them in such matters. They may have had input, but in the end those decisions where left to those with the greatest knowledge and understanding of the subject, those who knew surrender, assimilation, and adaptation was not an option.
Do those practical reasons still exist today, have the roles changed, do those same instincts and emotions in men and women still exist?
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Old 07-05-2014, 03:58 PM
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Fantastic. Also in the news, the workforce is the lowest it has been in centuries. At this rate, we can fudge the denominator to the point we don't have a workforce along wit 0% unemployment. Gawd, i feel stupider having taken the time to read this thread.
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Old 07-07-2014, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Ranger77 View Post
not all women voted Obama

Obamacare alone will cost several trillion dollars. Look, as POTUS Obama has to own what he's doing, and that is spending this country into debt its never imagined and passing things without Congressional approval while allowing his administration to run wild.

I noticed you skipped out my short list of issues with this Presidency - I guess that's all GW too ?


http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ali-...on-under-obama

When President Obama was first inaugurated on Jan. 20, 2009, the debt of the U.S. government was $10,626,877,048,913.08, according to the Treasury Department’s Bureau of the Public Debt. As of Jan. 31, 2014, the latest day reported, the debt was $17,293,019,654,983.61—an increase of $6,666,142,606,070.53 since Obama’s first inauguration

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The total debt of the United States did not exceed $6.666 trillion until July 2003. In the little more than five years of the Obama presidency, the U.S. has accumulated as much new debt as it did in it’s first 227 years



Now, you can safely thank Obama - he's the POTUS, its his incredible spending that is responsible for the deficit. He COULD have cut budgets, cut spending, but that's not traditionally what Democrats do.

have you not paid attention ?
When BHO was elected the Defecit was 1.5trillion per year and the economy was in free fall with 500-700k americans losing their jobs each month.

So how would you have liked him to immediately reverse the 1.5 trillion that Bush put in place and on top of that do something about the growing millions of unemployed.

Defecit is 1/3 of that now and all numbers are going in the right direction.

Going to take a couple more years to get back to another Dem Clinton kind of numbers.
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Old 07-07-2014, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Ranger77 View Post
The VAST majority of this nation is Conservative - clearly most of the Democratic Gay Liberal Anti-Gun tree hugging people are in cities where of course also is extreme debt, bankruptcy, crime, murder, restrictive laws, etc etc etc







Where do the PEOPLE live on this chart. Most of the Red is Cows and Corn that don't have "real" problems to deal with.
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Originally Posted by burniegoeasily View Post
Fantastic. Also in the news, the workforce is the lowest it has been in centuries. At this rate, we can fudge the denominator to the point we don't have a workforce along wit 0% unemployment. Gawd, i feel stupider having taken the time to read this thread.
Must be tough to do that.
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Old 07-07-2014, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by NeverWill View Post
When BHO was elected the Defecit was 1.5trillion per year and the economy was in free fall with 500-700k americans losing their jobs each month.

So how would you have liked him to immediately reverse the 1.5 trillion that Bush put in place and on top of that do something about the growing millions of unemployed.

Defecit is 1/3 of that now and all numbers are going in the right direction.

Going to take a couple more years to get back to another Dem Clinton kind of numbers.
I don't know how you keep coming up with all these ridiculous inaccurate numbers, but you Sir are full of bullpuckies!!!
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Old 07-07-2014, 02:54 PM
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72 pounds Sachiko....really! On a good days fishing I catch more poundage than that and the fish are panfish so it takes a lot of them. Give up the saki and switch to beer. That extra 5 pounds will go on like you wouldn't believe. Nice job of parenting I have to say. Nice to hear your kids aren't spoiled rotten like so many I see all the time. Congrats to both you and CR422.
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Old 07-07-2014, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Champlain Islander View Post
72 pounds Sachiko....really! On a good days fishing I catch more poundage than that and the fish are panfish so it takes a lot of them. Give up the saki and switch to beer. That extra 5 pounds will go on like you wouldn't believe. Nice job of parenting I have to say. Nice to hear your kids aren't spoiled rotten like so many I see all the time. Congrats to both you and CR422.
Thank You. We are very proud of our daughters.

My mother and I are the same size, by the way. We have been able to wear each other's clothes since I was 15.
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Old 07-08-2014, 07:35 AM
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skipped over the scandals again I see ... how convenient

Going to take a couple more years to get back to another Dem Clinton kind of numbers.
at 1.5-2 trillion a year in added debt, we cannot afford a few more years

adding jobs by placing trillions on the next generation is NOT job creation, especially when its all temp/busy work .... it robbing the future to pay for the present and it will fail
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Old 07-08-2014, 07:51 AM
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I was still waiting for Will to explain why republicans are to blame for Obama refusing to enforce the laws on the book securing our borders. Why is it republicans fault for Obama releasing violent criminals from our jails to roam the streets of the US?
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