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Old 06-10-2014, 11:50 AM
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I Don’t know Cal, and not to be critical here, but it looks like in this pic that gun is being pointed at someone. No finger on the trigger, just like the guy on the bridge in the first photos, He too is pointing at something, but no finger on the trigger.

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Old 06-10-2014, 12:17 PM
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Not to be critical here but the Officer is obviously pointing at some one in picture seven.
Originally Posted by CalHunter View Post
I read a similar article in the Las Vegas Sun (see link directly below) about those 2 wackos being kicked off the Bundy ranch.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2014...-kicked-ranch/


While it is certainly wise to distance themselves from these 2 wacko cop killers, I don't think anybody (including the Bundys) could have accurately predicted that these 2 wackos would do something this despicable several months into the future and then presciently decide to kick them off the Bundy ranch so long ago. If the Bundys were that wise, they should have simply gambled in any local casino and used such prescience to make a fortune.

While I am not privy to the federal investigation into the Bundy incident, I would presume that the feds will arrest and charge anybody they can prove pointed a gun at a "federal cop" or any other identifiable LE officer. I have looked at some of the photos at the link below (I'm sure there are lots that weren't published) and found very few photos showing either Bundy supporters or police pointing guns at each other or anybody for that matter. Yes, there were a few exceptions but most did not appear to point guns at each other.

https://www.google.com/search?q=bund...w=1333&bih=617


I did notice these photos (see below photos from the above link) and would imagine each photo will be investigated thoroughly:

This appears to be the same guy in the first 4 photos. I will be surprised if he doesn't have legal problems since he does appear to be aiming at a large crowd (can't say for sure if he's aiming at someone in particular or not). Too much Rambo, not enough critical thinking.



This guy is obviously pointing at something,but no finger on the trigger.












While I wouldn't want to be standing near this guy (see next 2 pictures) as he doesn't seem to understand muzzle control. It's hard to say either way without more pictures for context.






I could almost guarantee that this next photo will get investigated. Either there was a very good reason for this or there wasn't. That one petty much looks like that gun is being pointed at someone.




The next 7 photos seem to depict that most people on either side of this incident do not appear to be pointing guns at anybody.





















At minimum, everybody on this Facebook page/post should be investigated. The comments appear to indicate that these guys had at least ranged the BLM snipers and had likely pointed their rifles at them. Again, too much Rambo and not enough common sense.




Edit note--The image shows up when I'm editing this post but not when anybody views it. Here's a link to the image.

http://images.dailykos.com/images/82...JPG?1399648386

This guy is apparently a comedian. Kind of funny but not the smartest place for humor.







And this last image is disturbing to say the least. I don't have any information that either side knew about this post or these people but anybody who actually read such a post should have seen a red flag and reported it IMHO.



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Old 06-10-2014, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by NeverWill View Post
The Fed's should have used a sniper and picked off every one of those bad guy "Patriots" defending Bundy from the Evil Government.

When will the hate mongering by the GOP and right stop. 2 cops and a guy trying to help are gunned down because they hated the government.

When will people stop fueling this kind of activity.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ral-government
You truly are STUPID aren't you? Do you talk around the family table with such slant & MSNBC style "garbage layering"? You aren't related to that furbumper Rachel Madcow are you?

That saddistic, illegal, felonious couple were thrown off of the Bundy ranch! Even for braindead liberals, trying to tie those two misfits to the right, is just elementary at best.
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Old 06-10-2014, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CalHunter View Post

This guy is apparently a comedian. Kind of funny but not the smartest place for humor.







And this last image is disturbing to say the least. I don't have any information that either side knew about this post or these people but anybody who actually read such a post should have seen a red flag and reported it IMHO.


I wouldn't call him a comedian.
Remember this:

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Wednesday that she was briefed before the release of a controversial intelligence assessment and that she stands by the report, which lists returning veterans among terrorist risks to the U.S.
But the top House Democrat with oversight of the Department of Homeland Security said in a letter to Ms. Napolitano that he was “dumbfounded” that such a report would be issued.
“This report appears to raise significant issues involving the privacy and civil liberties of many Americans - including war veterans,” said Rep. Bennie Thompson of Mississippi, chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, in his letter sent Tuesday night.
The letter was representative of a public furor over the nine-page document since its existence was reported in The Washington Times on Tuesday.
In her statement Wednesday, Ms. Napolitano defended the report, which says “rightwing extremism” may include groups opposed to abortion and immigration, as merely one among several threat assessments. But she agreed to meet with the head of the American Legion, who had expressed anger over the report, when she returns to Washington next week from a tour of the U.S.-Mexico border.


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Old 06-10-2014, 01:03 PM
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I am going with a duh moment, as in hay lay down and act like you are a sniper. Duh Ok, how does this look? Duh pretty good.








While I wouldn't want to be standing near this guy (see next 2 pictures) as he doesn't seem to understand muzzle control. It's hard to say either way without more pictures for context.

Another Duh moment. Duh stand there and look like you mean business. Duh Ok, how does this look? Duh looks good.







I could almost guarantee that this next photo will get investigated. Either there was a very good reason for this or there wasn't.

I see one of the drivers arms and hand, but not the other, so where is the other? What is the Right hand on?




This guy is apparently a comedian. Kind of funny but not the smartest place for humor.

Or yet another Duh moment.



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Old 06-10-2014, 01:58 PM
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I'm going to try and respond to each of your observations with as complete of a context as possible.

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I Don’t know Cal, and not to be critical here, but it looks like in this pic that gun is being pointed at someone. No finger on the trigger, just like the guy on the bridge in the first photos, He too is pointing at something, but no finger on the trigger.
You posted this response without a picture and then posted again with your response (in red) above the picture of the guy on an overhead pass (or bridge) who was aiming through some type of slit or crack in the cement wall. You say he's pointing, I said he's aiming based on how he's holding his rifle and because he appears to be looking through his rear sight.

I'll agree that he appears to be pointing (aiming) his gun in the direction of a large crowd. I didn't say he was aiming at someone in particular because I wasn't able to look through his sights and the picture doesn't quite give you enough to determine if he was aimed at somebody specifically. From the angle in the 3rd picture, you could maybe guess that he's aiming at Bundy supporters according to the picture but that doesn't make a lot of sense either.

I don't think we disagree substantially that what he's doing is foolish and wrong, not to mention illegal. Where we differ slightly in our posts is that you've stated what you believe is happening (not saying you're wrong) whereas I am only stating what I can reasonably "prove" by using the pictures in my post. Your observation is for discussion (again, not saying you're wrong) whereas my observation is based on my training and experience of having to prove stuff like this in court (the cop in me). This ingrained way of looking at things sometimes irritates people (even a few on this forum) but it's just the way I've been trained to look at things and my experience in having to investigate incidents over the last 24+ years as a cop. And for the record, I think posting the picture and claiming they have their snipers is simply idiotic.

You posted that you were pretty sure the cop was pointing a gun (rifle) at the guy in the car (7th picture down). I don't see where we disagree but, for reference, here's part of my post just above the pictures and link to them.

I have looked at some of the photos at the link below (I'm sure there are lots that weren't published) and found very few photos showing either Bundy supporters or police pointing guns at each other or anybody for that matter. Yes, there were a few exceptions but most did not appear to point guns at each other.
A "few exceptions" to both sides not pointing guns at each other. As in, a few people on both sides did point guns at each other.

I could almost guarantee that this next photo will get investigated. Either there was a very good reason for this or there wasn't.
This quote is kind of obvious. either that cop had a good & legal reason to point his gun at this guy or he didn't. It's sure to get investigated though.

As I said above, I don't think we disagree on much in this incident or these pictures. You opine some conclusions whereas I'm just a little more precise is how I describe what the same pictures appear to show. Again, doesn't mean you're wrong. Just means we approach it a little differently in our posts.
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Old 06-10-2014, 02:10 PM
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C Davis, I was being a little facetious in my commentary on the guy with the name tag but I believe you already knew that. In the right setting, it is "kind of funny." Unfortunately for this guy (as I already posted), this wasn't the smartest place for humor or, as CKell put it so eloquently, it was a "duh" moment.

And back to Ckell's 2nd set of responses to the pictures, I happen to agree that most of them are duh moments. On the guy in the brown cowboy hat, I was looking at his pants, boots, haircut, etc. and trying to determine if he was one of those returning vets mentioned in the Facebook quote featured in one of the pictures. That position wouldn't be out of line in Afghanistan but it does look odd here in the U.S. and isn't how most cops train (low ready position).

Your picture about where is the driver's right hand in the picture where one cop is pointing a rifle at that driver is a good one. I wondered the same thing and then looked at the picture closer. I noticed the other cop (on the other side of the car) does not seem to have his weapon drawn and does not seem to be taking any type of precautions that I would expect if the driver had a gun in either his right hand or in plain sight. I don't know if pointing the rifle at the driver was justified or not with the limited information we have. I do know that the incident will almost certainly be investigated, especially so with the picture floating around the internet.
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:23 PM
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" I also am pretty busy at times and do not respond to threads and I usually only follow recent threads. No intent to avoid questions and challenges, just me having time to do what I need to do".

That's funny... Do you think that many of us here haven't seen you to continue to make posts in the same threads that the questions have been asked in as you continue to dodge the question?
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:40 PM
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"As far as throwing out topics that might shake up the flow here. You are 90% correct. This site is loaded with right wing GOP dribble that only goes in 1 direction most of the time. I attempt to create a balance where a differing opinion can be interesting and fun to discuss."

Thanks for posting this NeverWill, I couldn't agree more
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Lunkerdog View Post
" I also am pretty busy at times and do not respond to threads and I usually only follow recent threads. No intent to avoid questions and challenges, just me having time to do what I need to do".

That's funny... Do you think that many of us here haven't seen you to continue to make posts in the same threads that the questions have been asked in as you continue to dodge the question?

***He can sure come up with some good stuff can he, LOL?!!!
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