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Old 05-19-2010, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SWThomas View Post
Funny because there isn't one.

Having a background check done at a gun purchase is not a common sense law? Do you think there would be NO effect on crime statistics if a felon could walk into Walmart and buy a gun without a background check?? Oh yeah, sure. He's a felon and felons aren't allowed to buy a gun, so just go ahead and sell it to him, and if he decides to murder a bunch of people, you lock him up then. Don't do anything to prevent him from getting it in the first place, just becaue you consider it a burden when you have to wait the 10 minutes for the background check to go thru.
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Old 05-19-2010, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve863 View Post
Having a background check done at a gun purchase is not a common sense law? Do you think there would be NO effect on crime statistics if a felon could walk into Walmart and buy a gun without a background check?? Oh yeah, sure. He's a felon and felons aren't allowed to buy a gun, so just go ahead and sell it to him, and if he decides to murder a bunch of people, you lock him up then. Don't do anything to prevent him from getting it in the first place, just becaue you consider it a burden when you have to wait the 10 minutes for the background check to go thru.
Background checks? In case you havent noticed theyve gone a bit farther than that,

pistol permits, trigger locks,magazine, pistol grip, bayonet lug restrictions!!!!! now they wanna encoded brass and firing pins!?!?! where does it end?

Its all BS anyway! weve had NICS (background checks) since 94' doesnt seem to stop criminals from getting guns . THEY DONT BUY GUNS LEAGALLLY
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Old 05-19-2010, 05:34 AM
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What's the felon doing out of jail to start with.....'ol Steve and his "fewer guns equals fewer crimes" comes out of his shell.....Steve did you happen to see the story recently, think it was in China,....where the guy killed a bunch of young kids, while they were in school....using a knife........suppose fewer knives would've stopped that crime from happening huh? Maybe a permit to buy knives is needed over there? Maybe limit how many knives a person can buy each month? Maybe require locks around the blades? Or maybe even require the knives to be stored in a locakable safe?
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Old 05-19-2010, 05:52 AM
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Whatever boys!! You can let the NRA brainwash you into thinking that the easy availability of guns in this country has NO effect on the rate of crime here. I own guns, but in NO way will they ever convince me that this fact is true. Our murder rates are way higher than in most civilized society, and I will never be convinced that the easy availability of guns is not part of the problem. You fellas can continue to be brainwashed any way you choose! You are as brainwashed as the staunchest anti-gunners who can't see the other sides point of view if their lives depended on it. Very little difference between you I am sorry to say.
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Old 05-19-2010, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Howler View Post
What's the felon doing out of jail to start with.....'ol Steve and his "fewer guns equals fewer crimes" comes out of his shell.....Steve did you happen to see the story recently, think it was in China,....where the guy killed a bunch of young kids, while they were in school....using a knife........suppose fewer knives would've stopped that crime from happening huh? Maybe a permit to buy knives is needed over there? Maybe limit how many knives a person can buy each month? Maybe require locks around the blades? Or maybe even require the knives to be stored in a locakable safe?

LOL! You point to an isolated case in China, when shootings are a daily event in this country. No guns don't kill people, but they do make it easier to do so. A hell of a lot easier to kill someone with a gun than it is to bludgeon with a knife, strangle or any other means.
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Old 05-19-2010, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve863 View Post
LOL! You point to an isolated case in China, when shootings are a daily event in this country. No guns don't kill people, but they do make it easier to do so. A hell of a lot easier to kill someone with a gun than it is to bludgeon with a knife, strangle or any other means.

It's actually happened three times in the last month or so in China. Twice with butcher knives, once with a meat cleaver. And, yeah, it might be hard to kill someone by bludgeoning with a knife. Seems to me it would work better if you used the pointy end...


EDIT: Actually, it turns out there have been five such attacks in the last two months, and a sixth occurred today.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37227783...fic/?Gt1=43001

The attack follows five separate assaults by lone assailants against schoolchildren as young as three in the last two months that have left 17 dead and more than 50 wounded, including some adults.
And, the meat cleaver attack was a separate incident:

In a similar incident, a cleaver-wielding man killed one woman and wounded five at a market in the southern province of Guangdong on Sunday before jumping to his death.

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Old 05-19-2010, 07:10 AM
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I honestly think it's more about the membership dues than most other reasons. Just think, if each NRA member gave a membership as a gift to one person their numbers would double. Congress already smooches the rump of a four million member NRA, what would they do for an eight million member group? So why hasn't this happened? Money.
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Old 05-19-2010, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ipscshooter View Post
It's actually happened three times in the last month or so in China. Twice with butcher knives, once with a meat cleaver. And, yeah, it might be hard to kill someone by bludgeoning with a knife. Seems to me it would work better if you used the pointy end...


EDIT: Actually, it turns out there have been five such attacks in the last two months, and a sixth occurred today.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37227783...fic/?Gt1=43001



And, the meat cleaver attack was a separate incident:

How many multiple murders or injuries with guns have been committed in OUR country in the last month, year, 5 years, 10 years, 20 years?? The incidents are endless. We are leaders in this category compared to most any western civilized nation. If you think the easy availability of guns both legal and illegal (if there is actually any difference in this country?)has nothing to do with it, you are drinking the NRA's koolaid I am afraid. I own guns, but am reasonable enough to realize that there easy availability doesn't help our crime statistics in the least.
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Old 05-19-2010, 08:43 AM
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Steve, if anyone doesn't deserve a gun, its people who think like you, because you obviously do not value your own, and others, constitutional rights to own them.

As far as guns making it easier to commit murders, thats pure BS, a psyco w/ half a brain, could go to home depot and pick up a few items ( w/no NICS check) that could kill more people, more efficiently, than an AK 47 ever could.

where do you think more assaults and murders occur, a max sec. prison, or a little rural town in TX? Lots of guns in one, lots of criminals in the other ........get it??????????????????????????????????
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Old 05-19-2010, 08:55 AM
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where do you think more assaults and murders occur, a max sec. prison, or a little rural town in TX? Lots of guns in one, lots of criminals in the other ........get it??????????????????????????????????
I agree with that 100%. You get killings and maimings in prisons all the time--places that have the absolute strictest restrictions on ANY type weapon, especially guns...not to mention surrounded by guards, and steel, and concrete, and razor wire.

Seems there have been a few studies that show that the places with the most lax gun laws have the fewest gun felonies, while places with the most restrictive gun laws have the most.

Simply put, laws only affect law abiding citizens. Criminals could care less.
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