hillbillyhunter1

a hot button issue for me is the second amendment

to that end i spend a substantial amount of my discretionary income supporting the firearms/ammo manufacturing and distribution industry. I also try to exercise that freedom as often as i can and encourage others to do so.....I particularly like to unload my shotgun on doves that are too far out of range. have I passed the test???

Lanse couche couche

Question asked and answered.

Now get back to me when you understand the difference between holding a belief and being utterly for/against something that would suggest that action is in order. Or, provide your own answer to let us know what you do to put your anti-abortion beliefs into action. If nothing, then fine, but at least be honest and admit it.

LBR

Yeah--ironically, a refusal to answer a few simple questions is an answer in and of itself.

Seems to me that you are the one that should provide this definition, since you were the one that made the initial accusation.

Like I said, I couldn't provide a logbook or reciepts if I wanted to, but I know what I do to support causes I believe in. This varies from donations to charities that oppose abortion to the simple act of posting on a message board to expose the hypocracy, inconsistency, and utter lack of honesty diplayed by abortion advocates.

Thanks--that's the answer to one of my questions. Obviously you can't pass the scrutiny you apply to others. I've asked you to do the same thing over and over, but you keep avoiding it.

So, again...do you take a strong stance on anything? If you do, what do you do to support that stance by the way of time and money. Not counting land investments of course. If you don't take a strong stand on anything, where do you get the authority to take shots at those that do?

Lanse couche couche

Uh, you asked for an example of me talking the talk and walking the walk and I gave it. Just because you dont like the answer doesn't disqualify it as an answer.

And no problem if you dont keep a logbook. Just give us a quick off the cuff estimate? Hell i'll even take a wild guess....

But since i dont think an answer is going to be forthcoming, i am going to put the utter belief that I am in dire need of a beer in action.

LBR

Off the cuff, I'd say I donate well over 10% of my income to causes I believe in. I have no idea how many hours--several weekends a year, plus various weekday hours.

There you go--I answered your questions. Can you now answer your own question? C'mon--shock me with some real answers. Show us you have the guts to undergo the same scrutiny you place on others. If you can't, seems there is a word for that...I think you are actually pretty familiar with it, and don't have a problem flinging it at others.

Like I said, investing in land is just that--an investment, not a sacrifice. How much are you actually donating? How much money, how many hours, doing something you normally wouldn't be doing? Be honest now--did you buy the property for the sole purpose of taking kids hunting on it? You don't use it for anything else? Do you plan to leave it to someone else under the conditions they use it just for letting kids hunt on it when you die?

Is that the only thing you have a stand on? No comment on people that are a drain on taxpayers, other than the unborn? Why is that? If it's a viable excuse for murdering unborn babies, why isn't it just as good an excuse for killing the elderly, disabled, etc.? Seems that word would apply here too.

LBR

I'll add that none of the time or money I donate will ever pay me back--at least not monetarily. I don't consider investments in property to be a sacrifice. Unlike some folks, I hold my self to at least the same standards I hold others to--usually I hold myself to higher standards than I expect of others.

etothepii

Seems like this is going to go on between Lanse and Chad...
My final input to this little discussion is that Lanse and I disagree on what hypocricy means.

boysda

no digging. but if it makes you happy to envision me in a hole, please do so. your happiness is important to me.

the facts remain:
-you said no liberal would make a call to service as JFK did

-Obama made such a call to service part of his campaign platform
(he was coincidentally, pilloried for it by the right)

-Obama is a liberal

i shall now go stand in a hole in my backyard (i happen to have one, as i'm expanding a deck) just to make your day a little easier.

boysda

where, precisely, in WV do you exercise these second amendment rights? see, i'm often in Pittsburgh, and it seems to me, in light of all the bitterness and bile being spit by both parties, a little bipartisan dove shooting might be symbolic. hell, it might even be our duty...

LBR

Keep telling yourself that both satements were exactly the same, meant the same thing, and had the same intentions behind them. 'Course you should realize that anyone with a smidgen of intellectual honesty will laugh at the idea. Just can't address the fact that bho called for manditory "volunteers" eh?