Shirking Military service
10-22-2009, 04:22 PM
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Shirking Military service
Another poster brought up an interesting point. He has said if you do not serve in the military, your a coward. I know this goes against the American way of an all volunteer military. But is this poster dead on correct? Should all women and men be required to serve active duty? Especially in the times of jihad by islam?
I would like to hear some thoughts on this. Part of me says yes, you should. But the other part would say this is way too expensive and would turn into another goverment program gone wild. And maybe not needed at all. Turns into another socialist program for jobs for those out of high school
I would like to hear some thoughts on this. Part of me says yes, you should. But the other part would say this is way too expensive and would turn into another goverment program gone wild. And maybe not needed at all. Turns into another socialist program for jobs for those out of high school
10-22-2009, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by emptyquiver2
What I have been reading is that enlistment is up . Every department has filled its quota. They attribute it to the economy.
But do you believe us college boys are just living off the backs of those young boys in Iraq and Aphganastan?
10-22-2009, 05:53 PM
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Absolutely not. This is suppose to be a free country. Not a dictatorship.
And yes it is true that the military is not accepting any one right now. I was talking to a Navy recruiter today and they are turning away every one with very few exceptions.
And yes it is true that the military is not accepting any one right now. I was talking to a Navy recruiter today and they are turning away every one with very few exceptions.
10-22-2009, 05:59 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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Originally Posted by bigbulls
snipped.....And yes it is true that the military is not accepting any one right now. I was talking to a Navy recruiter today and they are turning away every one with very few exceptions.
We are a free country, with the best all volunteer service in the world.
So thank you to all service members, past and present.
10-22-2009, 06:05 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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Iam sorry, I just got off of swing shifts and do not understand your meaning of living off of someones back. I was drafted out of college in 71, my number in the lottery was 42. I new I was going, wasnt all that happy about it at the time, but I did my duty. I never thought about the ones at home that much, I was more concerned about who had my back at the time.
10-22-2009, 06:52 PM
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IMO forced service could do more harm than good. I agree with BB on this one.
I do believe that serving in the military, fulfilling your agreement, and getting an honorable discharge should be added as a requirement to run for POTUS, since that office is also Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces. It's never made any sense to me to put someone who absolutely has no clue in that position.
I do believe that serving in the military, fulfilling your agreement, and getting an honorable discharge should be added as a requirement to run for POTUS, since that office is also Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces. It's never made any sense to me to put someone who absolutely has no clue in that position.
10-22-2009, 07:17 PM
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No I don't believe that anyone should be forced to serve except for all out war.
However, I agree 1000000000 percent that no person should serve as commander in chief without having served in the military.
However, I agree 1000000000 percent that no person should serve as commander in chief without having served in the military.
10-22-2009, 07:24 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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There are a variety of ways to serve your country and community besides through the profession of arms. Should one be unable to serve in the military, or simply prefer not to join the military - yet still volunteer their time to non-partisan, non-special interest causes in their community, the term "coward" is wholly inappropriate.
Those who can serve in some capacity but who choose not to out of personal convenience aren't "cowards", they're just "parasites."
Those who can serve in some capacity but who choose not to out of personal convenience aren't "cowards", they're just "parasites."
10-23-2009, 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by LBR
IMO forced service could do more harm than good. I agree with BB on this one.
I do believe that serving in the military, fulfilling your agreement, and getting an honorable discharge should be added as a requirement to run for POTUS, since that office is also Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces. It's never made any sense to me to put someone who absolutely has no clue in that position.
I do believe that serving in the military, fulfilling your agreement, and getting an honorable discharge should be added as a requirement to run for POTUS, since that office is also Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces. It's never made any sense to me to put someone who absolutely has no clue in that position.
I agree with most of this.Especially about the POTUS.I have some friends that go the school here from Finland.One guy told me when you turn 18 you go into service male or female (if mentaly and /or physically capable).Do a 2 year tour .That does not mean you go in just to be a soldier just to serve the country in some shape, form, or fashion.Personally I believe that if all 18 year olds in this country had to do the same we would be somewhat better off.It would at least show them discipline and that somewhere down the long line of life that there will always be somebody that IS going to tell you what to do.Just my .02 worth.
