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etothepii 11-05-2008 11:57 AM

Opinion from veterans
 
One of Obama's plans is to fully integrate homosexuals into the military. Is this an idea whose time has come, or should Obama follow the advice of his top adviser and keep the military the way it is? Personally, I have no military experience, so I can't comprehend the consequences of this.

Consider this a "moving on" thread. I'm ready to discuss President Obama.

RenaissanceBiker 11-05-2008 12:10 PM

RE: Opinion from veterans
 
I have not heard this from Obama so I don't know if this is a leftover campaign rumor. I am an honorably dischargedveteran of the U.S. Army. I'm sure that homosexuals have served us well in our armed forces in the past. They may have done so in secret, but that doesn't mean they haven't served as well as anyone else. What is it about homosexuals that makes you think they can't? They are people, no better or worse than anyone else. You probably know more of them than you think.

etothepii 11-05-2008 12:13 PM

RE: Opinion from veterans
 
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispers/2008/10/31/barack-obamas-military-adviser-says-to-stick-with-gay-ban.html?s_cid=rss:washington-whispers:barack-obamas-military-adviser-says-to-stick-with-gay-ban

etothepii 11-05-2008 12:14 PM

RE: Opinion from veterans
 

What is it about homosexuals that makes you think they can't?
I never said any such thing! In fact, I said:


Personally, I have no military experience, so I can't comprehend the consequences of this.

kevin1 11-05-2008 12:21 PM

RE: Opinion from veterans
 
Gays have served our country since day one, letting them "come out" won't make things any better

bigbulls 11-05-2008 01:17 PM

RE: Opinion from veterans
 
IMO gays should not be allowed in the military unless the military was willing to accomodate. I too am honorably discharged from the navy and I would not want a homosexual man sleeping and showering with me.

Straight men are not allowed to share quarters with straight women.

Gay men or womenshould not be allowed to share quarters with straight men or women.

LBR 11-05-2008 01:54 PM

RE: Opinion from veterans
 

Is this an idea whose time has come
NO! Most soldiers have open bay showers, share a room with several others, etc. It's demoralizing, besides opening up a whole 'nother can of worms as far as "sexual harrassment", "hate crimes" etc. are concerned. We don't need that garbage in the military.

Chad

RenaissanceBiker 11-05-2008 01:54 PM

RE: Opinion from veterans
 

ORIGINAL: bigbulls
I too am honorably discharged from the navy and I would not want a homosexual man sleeping and showering with me.
I don't know you or anything about your military experience, but chances are that did happen to you without any consequence.

slicktrick_hunter1 11-05-2008 06:15 PM

RE: Opinion from veterans
 

but chances are that did happen to you without any consequence.
Yes it did happend and there were consequences.

The person I am refering to wasassigned to be mysponsor (person assigned to show you around)when I arrived on board USS Caron in Norfolk, VA in 1994. Before I knew about this persons homosexuality he offeredto let mestay at his and his wifes (on paper only, extra $$$) house untilI was able to move my wife down there and rent a house so I wouldn't have to stay on the ship every night. I accepted his offer and slept on a blow up mattress in the living room.I started noticing things about him and his mannerismsand after about two or three weeks I was asleep in the living room and this person decided to take itupon himself to crawl into the bed with me. Needless to say that was the last time I was ever in his house.

He was kicked out of the Navy a few months later.

That **** don't fly with me and as far asI am concerned they do not belong int he military!

bigbulls 11-05-2008 06:18 PM

RE: Opinion from veterans
 
Dang it, I posted under my sons user name.

That's me above.


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