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boysda 10-30-2008 04:42 AM

RE: Plot Against Obama
 

ORIGINAL: bergall


ORIGINAL: boysda


ORIGINAL: bergall

Read an interesting article this morning, outlining Osama's plans to consolidate democrat power by
offering amnesty to the 20million or so illegal aliens in this country. The vote is so close currently
(what with only citizens and non-felons allowed to vote) that the addition of 20million parasites will
tip the scales in favor of the enemy for a generation or more. Republicans could not even carry
Texas in this scenario.... Couple that with the marxist playbook on rigging elections (invalidate the
voting process so people lose faith in it....so like osama supporters are doing in Ohio, Nevada, and a
host of other states, they are committing voter fraud, posing as 'vote collectors' and registering
ballots for democrats and discarding votes for republicans...) Something needs to be
done about the conduct of this candidate's supporters because regardless of how closely affiliated
he may be with them (or not), this can be seen as a crooked election, conducted by his 'agents',
and abetted by the socialist media. Then idiots with scoped battle rifles (morons) will be lining up for their place in history, and they will have just cause as they will be defending the process by which our
leaders are selected...
you do know there are substantial voter supression efforts by BOTH sides, right now, right?
Well I've not heard anything about McCain' efforts, but I've only heard about fraud on the part of Obama supporters. I don't deny it, just have not heard anything about it. And besides, FRAUD is not suppression.
true dat. the former causes an unlawful ballot to be cast, the latter prevents a lawful ballot from being cast. same net result.

bergall 10-31-2008 10:48 PM

RE: Plot Against Obama
 

ORIGINAL: boysda


ORIGINAL: bergall


ORIGINAL: boysda


ORIGINAL: bergall

Read an interesting article this morning, outlining Osama's plans to consolidate democrat power by
offering amnesty to the 20million or so illegal aliens in this country. The vote is so close currently
(what with only citizens and non-felons allowed to vote) that the addition of 20million parasites will
tip the scales in favor of the enemy for a generation or more. Republicans could not even carry
Texas in this scenario.... Couple that with the marxist playbook on rigging elections (invalidate the
voting process so people lose faith in it....so like osama supporters are doing in Ohio, Nevada, and a
host of other states, they are committing voter fraud, posing as 'vote collectors' and registering
ballots for democrats and discarding votes for republicans...) Something needs to be
done about the conduct of this candidate's supporters because regardless of how closely affiliated
he may be with them (or not), this can be seen as a crooked election, conducted by his 'agents',
and abetted by the socialist media. Then idiots with scoped battle rifles (morons) will be lining up for their place in history, and they will have just cause as they will be defending the process by which our
leaders are selected...
you do know there are substantial voter supression efforts by BOTH sides, right now, right?
Well I've not heard anything about McCain' efforts, but I've only heard about fraud on the part of Obama supporters. I don't deny it, just have not heard anything about it. And besides, FRAUD is not suppression.
true dat. the former causes an unlawful ballot to be cast, the latter prevents a lawful ballot from being cast. same net result.
Well, not quite. Voter suppression takes many forms...most of which result in the voluntary decision by a registered voter to not cast a vote. So if I am determined to cast a ballot, nothing will stop me short of physical confrontation. Casting an unlawful ballot, and especially in this case, casting MANY unlawful ballots under assumed names does not yield the same result.

boysda 11-01-2008 02:54 AM

RE: Plot Against Obama
 

ORIGINAL: bergall
Well, not quite. Voter suppression takes many forms...most of which result in the voluntary decision by a registered voter to not cast a vote. So if I am determined to cast a ballot, nothing will stop me short of physical confrontation. Casting an unlawful ballot, and especially in this case, casting MANY unlawful ballots under assumed names does not yield the same result.

are you somehow placing the blame in voter suppression cases on the victim? you make it sound like a trifling affair.



and is there something scheduled in north jersey this tuesday that I should be aware of?:D

BigTiny 11-01-2008 06:49 AM

RE: Plot Against Obama
 
I'm not so sure about suppression being an issue. If it was, I would see it here where I live. But nobody is afraid to go to the polls, in fact, many enjoy it so much they go several times in the same day.

Arthur P 11-01-2008 07:34 AM

RE: Plot Against Obama
 
They've got rumors floating around on college campuses that say kids who vote at school will cause their parent's taxes to go up or they'll lose their resident status, or lose their financial aid, stuff like that. Or rumors that if you have outstanding traffic tickets and go to the polls that you'll be arrested. By putting bad voting machines or not enough machines in certain precincts that are heavily Democrat they cause long lines and hope that most of them give up before voting. And they've got phony flyers going around in some places, Virginia for one, saying that due to heavy voter demand, they have to split the vote up with GOP voting on Tuesday and Democrats voting Wednesday, which of course means the Democrats show up a day late and don't get to vote.

Republicans are just as famous for voter suppression as Chicago Democrats are for voter fraud.

falcon 11-01-2008 07:51 AM

RE: Plot Against Obama
 

Republicans are just as famous for voter suppression as Chicago Democrats are for voter fraud.
+1

Republicans pushed an effort to remove thousands of names from voting lists in CO. Seems like they did itwithin 90 days of the election in violation of afederal law.A federal judge ordered a halt to the practice.

http://www.examiner.com/a-1667025~Judge_orders_Colorado_to_stop_purging_vote r_rolls.html


An angry U.S. District Judge John Kane said Friday the removal of names violates a federal law that prevents voter purges within 90 days of a federal election, with only limited exceptions.

bergall 11-02-2008 12:50 AM

RE: Plot Against Obama
 

ORIGINAL: boysda


ORIGINAL: bergall
Well, not quite. Voter suppression takes many forms...most of which result in the voluntary decision by a registered voter to not cast a vote. So if I am determined to cast a ballot, nothing will stop me short of physical confrontation. Casting an unlawful ballot, and especially in this case, casting MANY unlawful ballots under assumed names does not yield the same result.

are you somehow placing the blame in voter suppression cases on the victim? you make it sound like a trifling affair.



and is there something scheduled in north jersey this tuesday that I should be aware of?:D
I have only experienced voter suppression one time, a few years ago trying to vote in Brooklyn.
Basically, NONE of the people running the polling place spoke English and I was not being directed
to the proper polling section (NYC voting is a massive affair...there can be as many as 10 or more separate little 'sections' based on your name and district and there can be as many as 50 or more
people whose job it is to ensure people get to their assigned areas). So I went in circles for about
45 minutes until I cut lines and went to each desk to see if this was my area. I then complained to
the NYC Board of Elections who went crazy over the complaint trying to make it sound like I was
exaggerating when I told them the people who met me at the door spoke Spanish, Yiddish, Chinese,
Korean, Greek and Russian. None of these spoke English and there was no English-speaking rep at
the place. I WITNESSED people getting frustrated and walking out. THAT"S voter suppression. If
you are physically confronted and told you'd better not vote, I'd think I'd have heard more about that.
The practice of discarding votes based on party is not 'voter suppression', it is voter fraud. So, I will
say that I've not heard too much about 'voter suppression' but I've heard a trainload about voter fraud.
On the other side of the coin, Arthur has outlined some suppression tactics I'd not heard before and which
would work for people who are ignorant...I wonder if we can employ summa-dat good stuff in Newark, Trenton, Newark, Camden, Jersey City and Morristown ?:D Bottom line for me, is that while I'd NEVER sit out an election, my vote for the republican candidate is like peeing into the wind...the state is solidly democrat with the 'institutional poor' dictating state representation by sheer numbers.

In NORTHERN New Jersey ? If you wanna find the REAL criminals, you need to go to SOUTH Jersey,
specifically to Trenton. That's gotta be the most crooked state capital in the Union....I can abide by
Democrat representation (I"ve had to tolerate it my whole adult life on the state level), but the amount
of criminality, corruption and unethical behavior reaches new hights in New Jersey. Welcome to the People's Republic.

boysda 11-02-2008 03:53 AM

RE: Plot Against Obama
 

ORIGINAL: bergall

In NORTHERN New Jersey ? If you wanna find the REAL criminals, you need to go to SOUTH Jersey,
specifically to Trenton. That's gotta be the most crooked state capital in the Union....I can abide by
Democrat representation (I"ve had to tolerate it my whole adult life on the state level), but the amount
of criminality, corruption and unethical behavior reaches new hights in New Jersey. Welcome to the People's Republic.
i was referring to northern NJ only because i knew you lived there. I'm also familiar with the southern partof the state. for a variety of reasons, some of which you touch upon, i will not conduct business there.

Griswold 11-02-2008 03:10 PM

RE: Plot Against Obama
 


ORIGINAL: bergall

Well, not quite. Voter suppression takes many forms...most of which result in the voluntary decision by a registered voter to not cast a vote. So if I am determined to cast a ballot, nothing will stop me short of physical confrontation. Casting an unlawful ballot, and especially in this case, casting MANY unlawful ballots under assumed names does not yield the same result.
Yes, quite. Suppression is just as unlawful as fraud, and it should be. I was disappointed after the Republicans started making such an issue of ACORN that their own skeletons came marching out of the closet. Not surprised, mind you. Just disappointed. I hate hypocrisy.

boysda 11-02-2008 03:29 PM

RE: Plot Against Obama
 

ORIGINAL: Griswold


ORIGINAL: bergall

Well, not quite. Voter suppression takes many forms...most of which result in the voluntary decision by a registered voter to not cast a vote. So if I am determined to cast a ballot, nothing will stop me short of physical confrontation. Casting an unlawful ballot, and especially in this case, casting MANY unlawful ballots under assumed names does not yield the same result.
Yes, quite. Suppression is just as unlawful as fraud, and it should be. I was disappointed after the Republicans started making such an issue of ACORN that their own skeletons came marching out of the closet. Not surprised, mind you. Just disappointed. I hate hypocrisy.
politics is the art of hypocrisy. what amazes me is the folks who see wrong-doing in the other guy's party, but not their own. kinda like arguing over who's the prettiest leper in the colony.


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