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Old 09-04-2008, 09:02 AM
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I trust no politician, including Palin. However, that was the first speech I've heard that was delivered with a "you and me" tone. She simply got up there and let America know who she is - no fast talking, no flashy politician speak, just real.

I'm sure she is going to appeal to many women, moms, and men for that matter. It was a very wise move to talk about her family, her upbringing, and her resume.

All in all a very wise move to bring her into this race on many levels - a female running mate to appeal to the female crowd, the whole Alaska/oil/energy debate, and a down to earth real person with grit and backbone.

Yeah, McCain did look stiff.
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Old 09-04-2008, 09:12 AM
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Yeah, McCain did look stiff.
I hate that about McCain. And it is so unnecessary, given his gymnastic abilities to do double back-flips and Sukahara vaults with 1 1/2 twists.

Just having some fun, badshotbob, no real offense intended. Of course McCain is stiff because of his beatings and denials of medical care while a guest at the Hanoi Hilton for several years. People need to remember this. Sometimes I pull a muscle in my neck and when I talk to people I turn my whole upper torso towards them. I'm sure I look pretty bizarre and stupid to them. I have a lot of sympathy for McCain's physical limitations. I don't think we should hold them against him (and I'm not suggesting you are doing that Badshotbob).
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Old 09-04-2008, 09:21 AM
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Yeah, McCain did look stiff.
I hate that about McCain. And it is so unnecessary, given his gymnastic abilities to do double back-flips and Sukahara vaults with 1 1/2 twists.

Just having some fun, badshotbob, no real offense intended. Of course McCain is stiff because of his beatings and denials of medical care while a guest at the Hanoi Hilton for several years. People need to remember this. Sometimes I pull a muscle in my neck and when I talk to people I turn my whole upper torso towards them. I'm sure I look pretty bizarre and stupid to them. I have a lot of sympathy for McCain's physical limitations. I don't think we should hold them against him (and I'm not suggesting you are doing that Badshotbob).
I think his smile more than makes up for it. He reminds me of a little boy when he smiles. Then when you add the thumbs up, it is that much more noticable. He looks like a kid in a candy store. That is one thing I love about him. Now his wife is beatiful. Palin is pretty but she has a lot of class and that makes her even more beautiful in my opinion.

Oh and for all of those who are having thoughts, did you see the way husband and wife looked at each other. They looked lie newlyweds and I am all for that. The same way McCains wife looked at him. I think that is highly commendable.
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Old 09-04-2008, 09:24 AM
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It's funny to me that folks yap about McCain's body language considering how he came by it, if elected he'll be the only US POTUS who's ever been tortured for years in service to his nation. Lest we forget, FDR lead this countrythroughsome of it's toughestyears from a wheelchair, and rarely did anyone make light of that.

I wasn't able to catch the Palin speech, but the reaction to it hardly surprises me. Everyone talks about how to be successful in America, but few practice it as well as Palin has. If she stays the course she's well on her way to becoming our first female POTUS in four years, from what I've seen so far we could do considerably worse, and usually have.
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Old 09-04-2008, 09:29 AM
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Yeah, McCain did look stiff.
I hate that about McCain. And it is so unnecessary, given his gymnastic abilities to do double back-flips and Sukahara vaults with 1 1/2 twists.

Just having some fun, badshotbob, no real offense intended. Of course McCain is stiff because of his beatings and denials of medical care while a guest at the Hanoi Hilton for several years. People need to remember this. Sometimes I pull a muscle in my neck and when I talk to people I turn my whole upper torso towards them. I'm sure I look pretty bizarre and stupid to them. I have a lot of sympathy for McCain's physical limitations. I don't think we should hold them against him (and I'm not suggesting you are doing that Badshotbob).

I hear ya. I should have added the rest of my thought to my sentence. You said it nicely though: "Of course McCain is stiff because of his beatings and denials of medical care while a guest at the Hanoi Hilton for several years. People need to remember this."

I'm hoping that the rest of America will keep this in mind since image carries much weight.
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Old 09-04-2008, 09:32 AM
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It's funny to me that folks yap about McCain's body language considering how he came by it, if elected he'll be the only US POTUS who's ever been tortured for years in service to his nation. Lest we forget, FDR lead this country through some of it's toughest years from a wheelchair, and rarely did anyone make light of that.

Mullet Boy, chill out. My point is that I hope the on-the-fencers will recognize this fact. Just forgot to complete my thought (long night, no sleep).
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Old 09-04-2008, 09:33 AM
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It's funny to me that folks yap about McCain's body language considering how he came by it, if elected he'll be the only US POTUS who's ever been tortured for years in service to his nation. Lest we forget, FDR lead this countrythroughsome of it's toughestyears from a wheelchair, and rarely did anyone make light of that.

I wasn't able to catch the Palin speech, but the reaction to it hardly surprises me. Everyone talks about how to be successful in America, but few practice it as well as Palin has. If she stays the course she's well on her way to becoming our first female POTUS in four years, from what I've seen so far we could do considerably worse, and usually have.
Here ya go, Kevin!

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=5722373

After this video, click on the one below on Mike Huckabee. He cracks me up!

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I'm in love with this woman, and I'm not easy to win over. What a speech!!
I have never heard this said after a Hillary speech.

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Old 09-04-2008, 09:54 AM
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Thanks Butch, geez, that gave me a semi...

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Mullet Boy, chill out. My point is that I hope the on-the-fencers will recognize this fact. Just forgot to complete my thought (long night, no sleep).
Mullet boy?
Geez Bob, I was agreeing with ya for a change. Want a hug?
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Old 09-04-2008, 10:51 AM
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hate that about McCain. And it is so unnecessary
You are mocking a prisoner of war vet- I mean can you stoop much lower ?

Prisoner of war
John McCain's capture and imprisonment began on October 26, 1967. He was flying his 23rd bombing mission over North Vietnam, when his A-4E Skyhawk was shot down by a missile over Hanoi.[32][33] McCain fractured both arms and a leg, and then nearly drowned, when he parachuted into Truc Bach Lake in Hanoi.[32] After he regained consciousness, a crowd attacked him, crushed his shoulder with a rifle butt, and bayoneted him.[32] Lieutenant Commander McCain was then transported to Hanoi's main Hoa Lo Prison, nicknamed the "Hanoi Hilton".[33]



[/link]
[/align]McCain being pulled from Truc Bach Lake in Hanoi and becoming a POW[34] on October 26, 1967
[/align][/align][/align]Although McCain was badly wounded, his captors refused to treat his injuries, instead beating and interrogating him to get information, and he was given medical care only when the North Vietnamese discovered that his father was a top admiral.[35] His status as a prisoner of war (POW) made the front pages of major newspapers.[36][37]
McCain spent six weeks in the hospital while receiving marginal care.[32] Now having lost 50pounds (23kg), in a chest cast, and with his hair turned white,[32] McCain was sent to a different camp on the outskirts of Hanoi[38] in December 1967, into a cell with two other Americans who did not expect him to live a week.[39] In March 1968, McCain was put into solitary confinement, where he would remain for two years.[40]
In mid–1968, McCain's father was named commander of all U.S. forces in the Vietnam theater, and McCain was offered early release.[41] The North Vietnamese made that offer because they wanted to appear merciful for propaganda purposes,[42] and also wanted to show other POWs that elites like McCain were willing to be treated preferentially.[41] McCain turned down the offer of repatriation; he would only accept the offer if every man taken in before him was released as well.[32]
In August 1968, a program of enhanced interrogation began on McCain.[43] He was subjected to rope bindings and repeated beatings every two hours, at the same time as he was suffering from dysentery.[32][43] Further injuries led to the beginning of a suicide attempt, which was stopped by guards.[32] After four days, McCain made an anti-American propaganda "confession".[32] He has always felt that his statement was dishonorable, but as he would later write, "I had learned what we all learned over there: Every man has his breaking point. I had reached mine."[44][45] His injuries left him permanently incapable of raising his arms above his head.[46] He subsequently received two to three beatings per week because of his continued refusal to sign additional statements.[47] Other American POWs were similarly tortured and maltreated in order to extract "confessions" and propaganda statements.[48]




[/align]Interview with McCain on April 24, 1973, after his return home
[/align][/align][/align]McCain refused to meet with various anti-war groups seeking peace in Hanoi, wanting to give neither them nor the North Vietnamese a propaganda victory.[link=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mccain#cite_note-48][49] From late 1969 onward, treatment of McCain and many of the other POWs became more tolerable,[50] while McCain continued to be an active resister against the camp authorities.[51] McCain and other prisoners cheered the B-52 Stratofortress-led U.S. "Christmas Bombing" campaign of December 1972, which they viewed as a forceful measure to push North Vietnam to terms.[45][52]

Altogether, McCain was held as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam for five and a half years. He was finally released from captivity on March 14, 1973.[53]
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