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mjw176 09-25-2017 03:04 PM

Hunting binoculars
 
I was looking into buying my first quality binocular for a possible hunting trips and became overwhelmed with how many different brands,models, magnification there are. I purchased a pair of Vortex Intrepid HD. in 10X42. Hope it's this a good move. How do you know what is the best overall magnification and lens size for a universal pair. Why are the variable magnification cost so much less that would allow you to adjust the zoom vs a fixed 10X?

Raxi 11-27-2017 07:32 AM

I have one from ATN, but they are old, I also want something new!

wild bill g 01-09-2018 07:36 AM

Not sure why variable power are cheaper but would guess because they are usually made by fly by night companies. Sounds like you made a good choice and 10x42 is a nice all round bino. There are better binos but they cost much much more but should give a person longer veiwing time and be sharper in image quality. Your binos should be one of your most used hunting accesories. Let us know what yiu think of these binos and congrats on your purchese.

CalHunter 01-09-2018 12:14 PM

Late to the party but...
For the OP, those are good questions. Vortex makes good binoculars that will last you a lifetime. Good choice.

There are many brands, models and magnifications in binoculars and all of them serve a purpose. If a guy only has $50 to spend on binos, he can find something at a local sporting goods store that will suffice. Your choice is a few levels up from that and will work even better.

I don't know that there is such a thing as a "universal pair" of binoculars but a quality bino in either 8x42 or 10x42 would come awful close. You will find that the terrain and type of hunting you do tends to influence what power works best for you. If you're hunting in brush or other close range terrain, an 8x or even 7x might work best since they have a wider field of view. If you get into longer distances, you might want the extra power of a 10x bino to clarify things. I've only purchased a single pair of variable magnification binos (Nikon 10-22x50 for about $150) which I used on a deer hunting trip in Utah. They were handy for glassing a couple of ridges away but the quality was much lower than my Swarovski 7x30's and they were bulkier and heavier.

Hopefully this gives you a general sort of answer to your questions. For a more specific answer, you would have to decide what you're hunting in what kind of terrain and what works best for your eyes.

glasser 01-16-2018 05:20 PM

Have you considered renting binoculars? That’s how I got started. Always bought the standard Bushnells until I rented a pair of Swarovski for a big sheep hunt. That sold me. I made the investment and have been thankful since.

JohnSteeds 07-19-2019 01:26 AM

I can highly recommend this article called The 10 Best Binoculars of 2019. I've checked the Celestron Granite our extensively and the reviews/specs are excellent for the product. Especially when it comes to bird watching, they've said in the article that this particular binocular is ideal for activities such as bird watching... I hope I helped a little bit!

wanderer08 07-23-2019 08:38 PM

Nikon 10x42 Monarchs. I don't remember what I paid for them, but it's waterproof and just as good as a lot of much higher priced types.
Have pretty much been a fan of Leupold and sometimes Ziess for scopes, but Nikon makes pretty awesome binos for the price.

MudderChuck 07-27-2019 11:20 AM

Choosing the right Binos is a tough one. A few tips are to check the lens coating on your Binos, Some work better in daylight some work better in low light.
I have a pair of Pentax I got as a gift, colors are crisp, image is sharp, good for bird watching. Not so good in low light, the lens coating is kind of a UV blue.
My Docter Binos have a reddish amber lens coating and I see farther with them in low light than I do with my Kahles 4X12X 56 scope with a very similar coating. Which I've found to be kind of a pain. I see Hogs with my Binos I can't make out with my scope. If hunting in low light it is better to match the abilities of your Binos and your scope IMO.

Wiwagner 08-21-2019 06:58 AM

Vortex Intrepid HD is a good one as hunting binocular but I love my Bushnell Powerview 8x25 binocular. It's a compact binocular for hunting. I've been using it since last 2 years and still, it works excellent.

George Foster 09-10-2019 07:06 AM

I have a pair of Weaver 8x42 binoculars that I bought about 12 years ago, I like these real well and I use them a lot when I am hunting woodchucks and crows. I feel 8x is better for holding and glassing than the 10x. I also have a pair of 8x30 wide angle Tasco binoculars that I bought in '79 that I really like for when I am deer hunting.

AveryMolly 02-02-2021 03:51 AM

Vortex is a really cool company that occupies one of the leading places, do not worry, you made the right choice. As for the binoculars, I mostly use 8x, since in my opinion in most situations 10x is simply not needed. As I noticed, your question has already been answered, so I won't repeat it. Good hunting!

Danny Landrum 02-16-2021 08:37 AM

First and foremost, weight is the most important consideration, depending on how fit you are and how far you're trekking. As always.
All things considered, generally speaking, I like my 6.5x21s, or a 6x28 or 7x30 (or similar) for all-timber (no open areas longer than 150 yards or so). Porros have a better depth of field for making out bedded deer, and give better value (quality/price). For mixed terrain, which is most common for me, I like an 8x30. Keeps it light, and is the best all purpose rig that still works. For wide open, I like a 10x - either a 10x32 if I'm going a long ways and need to keep it light, or a 10x42/43 if only going maybe a mile or so from the pickup on foot.

As for which, depends on budget as always. I like the sweet spot for value, which is the $120ish-$400 range. No, they're not as good as high end, but they give you what you need on a budget like mine. Go over $200 if you can. Most anything in this range works pretty well. My 8x30 Brunton porros and 10x32 Zen Ray roofies see most use (forget the models of these, but they're both the lowest end lines - I think Echo and ZRS - also, I do believe Zen-Ray is now kaput - shame). I've used the foreign-made Loopies, Pentaxes, Eagles, and Nikons as well in the past. Budget determines brand and model, and thus glass grind quality. You can go as high as you want. As always, check ebay for used first - better deals. The choices are myriad, so do your research.

I didn't go into detail about the exit pupil size, relative to weight and size, but those are all weighed into my final conclusions above.

Generally speaking, for birding, and 8x42/43 is the sweet spot. For hunting, you might want lighter depending on how far you go in, and you might want more power, depending on how wide open and how good your eyes are. Remember, you always sacrifice exit pupil size, field of view, and practical stability with more power, ceteris paribus.

Now if you *can* afford that $500-$2000 range, keep in mind that the extra glass grind quality will allow more power to be used with good clarity. So if you're in the higher end of things, and can't decide between a 7 and 8, or 8 and 10, round up - but you do still sacrifice the exit pupil size, which makes it harder / slower to find your target.

I guess you might could say that under 40 years old, an 8x42/43 (for woods) or 10x42/43 (for mixed or open) is best for under 40-45 years old, but over that, and 8x30/32 (woods) or 10x30/32 is the the best balance as you get older - just lighter. Lighter is critically important for us old dudes. As for roofies vs porros, that's mostly budget-determined. Both work great. If you're going for the value sweet spot of $120 - $400 but can get more in the $250 to $400 range, then I'd go for a roofie, as they as a bit smaller. If on the lower end of your general value category, the go for a porro - an ounce or two heavier, but better glass for the given price.

One more more thing, if your hunt is the spot-and-stalk style (typically sheep, goats, mulies), AND you have the wherewithal (youth and strength) to pack in more glass AND a tripod to use it without shaking, then it's helpful to have more glass obviously, to determine whether it's worth it to try to close the distance: either a compact spotting scope (maybe a 15x50 or 15x60/65), or big binos of higher quality in the range of 10x50, 12x50, 12x56, or possible even bigger, such as 15x56 or 15x70ish.

mrbb 02-16-2021 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by Danny Landrum (Post 4388239)
First and foremost, weight is the most important consideration, depending on how fit you are and how far you're trekking. As always.
All things considered, generally speaking, I like my 6.5x21s, or a 6x28 or 7x30 (or similar) for all-timber (no open areas longer than 150 yards or so). Porros have a better depth of field for making out bedded deer, and give better value (quality/price). For mixed terrain, which is most common for me, I like an 8x30. Keeps it light, and is the best all purpose rig that still works. For wide open, I like a 10x - either a 10x32 if I'm going a long ways and need to keep it light, or a 10x42/43 if only going maybe a mile or so from the pickup on foot.

As for which, depends on budget as always. I like the sweet spot for value, which is the $120ish-$400 range. No, they're not as good as high end, but they give you what you need on a budget like mine. Go over $200 if you can. Most anything in this range works pretty well. My 8x30 Brunton porros and 10x32 Zen Ray roofies see most use (forget the models of these, but they're both the lowest end lines - I think Echo and ZRS - also, I do believe Zen-Ray is now kaput - shame). I've used the foreign-made Loopies, Pentaxes, Eagles, and Nikons as well in the past. Budget determines brand and model, and thus glass grind quality. You can go as high as you want. As always, check ebay for used first - better deals. The choices are myriad, so do your research.

I didn't go into detail about the exit pupil size, relative to weight and size, but those are all weighed into my final conclusions above.

Generally speaking, for birding, and 8x42/43 is the sweet spot. For hunting, you might want lighter depending on how far you go in, and you might want more power, depending on how wide open and how good your eyes are. Remember, you always sacrifice exit pupil size, field of view, and practical stability with more power, ceteris paribus.

Now if you *can* afford that $500-$2000 range, keep in mind that the extra glass grind quality will allow more power to be used with good clarity. So if you're in the higher end of things, and can't decide between a 7 and 8, or 8 and 10, round up - but you do still sacrifice the exit pupil size, which makes it harder / slower to find your target.

I guess you might could say that under 40 years old, an 8x42/43 (for woods) or 10x42/43 (for mixed or open) is best for under 40-45 years old, but over that, and 8x30/32 (woods) or 10x30/32 is the the best balance as you get older - just lighter. Lighter is critically important for us old dudes. As for roofies vs porros, that's mostly budget-determined. Both work great. If you're going for the value sweet spot of $120 - $400 but can get more in the $250 to $400 range, then I'd go for a roofie, as they as a bit smaller. If on the lower end of your general value category, the go for a porro - an ounce or two heavier, but better glass for the given price.

well I am not going to say I am OLD< but I sure ain't young no more
I think before anyone decides that the difference in weight between a 8x32 VS an 8x42 (10x32--10-40)or like binoculars is rather SMALL difference in ounces IF that, and some can be had the same weight
the added light gathering and field of view to me is well worth the weight
and if you carry your binoculars on a good binocular harness the weight difference is Not there at all for me, but the added low light seeing and viewing is there as is the wider field of view on things!

which I gather will always be a personal decision, but weight over being able too see better ??
I take the seeing better and longer!

there are so many great binoculars on the market and with so many in weight ranges SO close, its pretty easy to get what you want in the same weight IMO!

Danny Landrum 02-16-2021 08:58 AM

Yeah, I smell what you're steppin in. Since roofies are slightly lighter, if you can afford to spend enough to get the glass quality you need (probably at least $250 new / $200 used), then yeah, I'd agree that going to a 40-43 objective size is probably worth it, even with the weight, for the extra light - still I'd pick a 7 or 8 power for woodsy areas and an 8 or 10 for mixed to open terrain. But over 50, don't forget that every ounce matters. I do go in pretty far though, so it's a big calculus of age, fitness, and how far you're going in. If you're going in 5 miles or more (which is archery season for me), at my age, every HALF ounce matters!

Bottom line, a roofie in the 8x42/43 or 10x42/43 in anything in the quality range of over $250 new (assuming you're not shopping at cheaper than dirt) is almost never a mistake. You could write pages and pages on exactly which makes and models, so not going into that here. For going super light for the woods, especially on a tight budget, a porro or roofie in the 6-8x30-32 range, over $110-$120 is almost never a mistake and will do what you want it to do, almost certainly. I like to have at an exit pupil of at least 4mm (calulated as objective divided by magnif).

"...could say that under 40 years old, an 8x42/43 (for woods) or 10x42/43 (for mixed or open) is best for under 40-45 years old,"
Department of Redundancy Department - oops, ha ha.

Popgunshooter 02-17-2021 09:08 PM

I wear eyeglasses and finding binoculars that work well are a problem for me. Am I doing something wrong in using them? This is a great thread btw.

Nomercy448 02-20-2021 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by Popgunshooter (Post 4388378)
I wear eyeglasses and finding binoculars that work well are a problem for me. Am I doing something wrong in using them? This is a great thread btw.

Personally, I typically find my glasses hindering enough to make the extra effort to wear my contacts whenever I’m going to be using sights or optics. BUT...

When I do use binos or LRF with my glasses, I use one of two tricks - set the eyepiece all the way in and adjust the ocular focus to reach through my glasses, or MORE OFTEN, I adjust the ocular correction to account for my $ch!tt vision and I simply push my glasses up out of the way when glassing.

BowHunt43 03-16-2021 12:16 AM

Leopold has really good ones, but they can be expensive. I have Bushnell 10 x 42 mm paid 200$ works great.

khilat 03-24-2022 02:07 PM

Binoculars eye relief greater than 16mm would be suitable for you indeed!

khilat 04-11-2022 06:22 PM

What would you go with for the money?

Cabelas XT 10x42

Nikon ATB 10x42

What are your experiences?


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