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Is Swarovski really the best?
I am looking at a new scope for a 30-06. This is used for whitetails, mule deer, and elk. Considering the following:
Swarovski Z3 4-12x50 BRH Reticle Leupold VX-3 4 - 12x50 B&C Reticle Zeiss Conquest 3.5-10x50 Rapid Z 600 Reticle The Swaro is $260 more than the Leupold and $175 more than the Zeiss. Is it really worth the extra coin? . . . Rob |
Originally Posted by Rob in VT
(Post 3785657)
I am looking at a new scope for a 30-06. This is used for whitetails, mule deer, and elk. Considering the following:
Swarovski Z3 4-12x50 BRH Reticle Leupold VX-3 4 - 12x50 B&C Reticle Zeiss Conquest 3.5-10x50 Rapid Z 600 Reticle The Swaro is $260 more than the Leupold and $175 more than the Zeiss. Is it really worth the extra coin? . . . Rob O.k this Swaro is not their top line model. I go out and say that now. Its a model directed at competing with the Conquest and some of higher end scope makes and models. It is a nice scope for sure, you will be happy with it no question about it and you will never give it up. Do it if you want, I would spend it over the Leupold cause it is a over all better scope than the Leupold and you will see it in that price difference. .I don't know about the Zeiss though, it is brighter, but the Ziess will do everything (and than some) you ask of it to under legal hunting laws and conditions and you won't regrett it.I would pick Ziess,only because of the Warranty.I'm not overly impressed with Swaros warranty.Both Leupold and Ziess offer a much better one, but reguardless a well built Swaro will stand the test of time. .I personally would use that extra money you save on the Ziess and put it towards top notch mounts for it.If you are happy with the way it will get mounted and that is not a concern buy the Swaro. It is brighter, but you will never really take full advantage of what it has to offer unless you go, to a place where you can shoot throughout the night when you compare this Ziess Conquest and this model of Swaro. But an extra 175 isn't all that much if you have got it in your budget already. |
I have the 3-12x50 swaro and it's certainly a step up from both the zeiss and leupold, I think the zeiss is a step up from the leupold.
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Originally Posted by salukipv1
(Post 3785701)
I have the 3-12x50 swaro and it's certainly a step up from both the zeiss and leupold, I think the zeiss is a step up from the leupold.
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I don't believe the Swaro is "the best" but it is certainly very, very good. I've got three and have used them extensively. Do you need top tier shelf scopes for most hunting...probably not. But that does not mean you shouldn't use them. I'd rather have one great scope than three so-so ones. Just my approach. The upper end Zeiss units have great glass, but they are FFP and I prefer SFP for typical hunting purposes. Zeiss Conquests are good, but not as good as the Swaro Z-3 (IMO, YMMV). I just acquired a S&B Summit to mess with. It may be the best of all I've tried. Whatever floats your boat. Good luck.
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So where is the best place to buy a Swaro Z3? From what I can see, the prices seem to be fixed on them. Right now it looks like my best bet is Cabela's with coupons and points from my CC.
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I get ALL my optics at S.W.F.A. (unless they don't carry that brand ...such as Nightforce).
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I will admit I have far too many rifle/scope set-ups that any hunter needs, but who is counting? (Well maybe my good wife?) I have experience with too many brands and models to mention here. I have a Conquest, a Z3 and two VX-III's. All are good scopes. For my dollar the Conquest is the value. The Z3 is great, but as you mentioned a fist full of dollars more. Z3 or Conquest, you will not be disappointed. As for Swarovski quality? My good wife gave me a top end Swarovski 30 mm tube, 1.5-6x42 mm for my 50th. That was 13 years ago. It has performed perfectly.
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Buy the "best" you can afford.
A lot of "us" wished we owed Swarovski's !!! |
lets not ferget why we pay so much for it. cause it is imported.
i think that people think the higher the price the better it is. just go take a look through a few. ask the counter guy if we can go outside and look around. you'll know when your done which one ya want. maybe he can hide the names, so when you see through em, you dont know whats-what and its a real verdict. |
Generally speaking the more you spend the better the quality, now just because some is asking $800 for a tasco doesn't mean it's better but when you are spending top dollar for what you know is top quality glass the more the better.There is a point you can compermise, I'm very happy with Leupold, I have a couple Nightforce scopes and like them better but no way can I afford to put them on all my guns. Is Swaro better than Lupy? Probably so, but I'm happy with the way my Lupys have held up, sometimes to unmetionable abuse and the performance hasn't dissapointed either. If you want the Swaro go for it, in the end you are the one spending the money, if you have your mind somewhat made up that Swaro is better and you buy something else you'll always be left wondering, should I have bought the Swaro? All that you mentioned will serve you well.
Call Alex Roy at EuroOptic http://www.eurooptic.com/ He will treat you right and more than likely has whatever scope you want in stock. |
After much thought and research, I went with the Swaro Z3 :D.
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Originally Posted by Rob in VT
(Post 3788478)
After much thought and research, I went with the Swaro Z3 :D.
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Almost any scope is going to look clear and crisp on a sunny day. Where the higher end scopes work best are in the lower light situations like dusk and dawn or in heavy timber. I have several different brands of scopes and use them differently. My Swarovski is the best scope I own.
As far as them being the best? Well they are up near the top for sure. Schimdt & Bender and Nightforce are both at the tops in my opinion. |
You can spend $10 on a scope or $1000 on a scope. The best one is whatever was on the gun when you killed the animal.
And in saying that, ill never own a swaro because they are rediculous in price and I have killed deer with $30 tascos and $50 simmons and $100-$250 nikons and leupolds. Comparing scopes is like comparing cartridges IMO. They all do the same thing. |
Originally Posted by Chris Johnson
(Post 3818184)
You can spend $10 on a scope or $1000 on a scope. The best one is whatever was on the gun when you killed the animal.
And in saying that, ill never own a swaro because they are rediculous in price and I have killed deer with $30 tascos and $50 simmons and $100-$250 nikons and leupolds. Comparing scopes is like comparing cartridges IMO. They all do the same thing. |
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