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TerryM 11-09-2008 10:20 PM

Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 
I am considering picking up a Zeiss conquest 3x9 in either 40mm or 50mm objective. My question is , is there a noticeable difference in low light performance to justify the extra $100.00?

HEAD0001 11-10-2008 01:50 AM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 
With a one inch tube I would stay with the 40mm. I do not like the 50 mm unless I have a 30mm tube. Instead of spending the extra $100 on the Zeiss I would consider a slightly better scope in 40mm. I do not know how much the Swaro's one inch A line scopes are now. But I have one and it is truly my all time favorite deer hunting scope. It has the perfect compromise of size, weight, and superior optics. Take a look at one. Tom.

TerryM 11-10-2008 07:56 AM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 
The Swaro will be outside my budget unfortunately.

trailer 11-10-2008 01:41 PM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 
I had the Zeiss Conquest 3-9 x 40 mm for a little while and found it just didn’t set up well with my short action rifle. The optics were good but found the field of view a little on the narrow side as well as the body being very long. I have the Zeiss Conquest 3-9 x 50 mm model set up on another rifle and as much as I mentioned in the past I wouldn’t get another 50 mm scope . I find this one is excellent and had a price I just couldn’t pass up. As for low light conditions, it works very well. Is it worth the $100 more, that I can’t say...

timbercruiser 11-10-2008 05:25 PM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 
Look at it this way, the scope will last 40+ or more years, so that is less than $3 extra per year for the 50. I would get the 50.

MALLARD76 11-13-2008 06:27 PM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 
I have a few Zeiss scopes in both 40, 44 and 50mm. Get the 50mm, as good as Zeiss glass is, it's even better through the 50mm during low light.

PaJack 11-20-2008 04:46 PM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 
I have a 3-9-50mm and a 4.5-14-44mm,both excelent but the 50mm is much better at dusk...

stalkingbear 11-21-2008 07:27 AM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 
I never could stand 50mm scopes for the simple reasons being you have to mount the scope higher. In fact,with most rifles comb height,you'll lose good cheekweld unless you have hogjaws. I'm a big guy and I have to lift my head up off the comb to see thru 50mm mounted scopes. With a properly fitted rifle/scope/mounts combo-you SHOULD be able to simply raise the rifle to your shoulder and automatically be ready to fire without having to lift your head off the comb. When cheek isn't solidly on stock,it's not conductive to good,fast target aqquiring form and you lose valuable time and some precision under normal shooting/hunting conditions. With a 40mm objective lens scope,you can mount it lower. That's the MAIN reason I ABSOLUTELY HATE see-thru or ironsighter scope mounts.

RugerM77.270 11-21-2008 09:00 AM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 
I recommend the 40 yo can use medium rings with it were as you have to have high rings with the 50 and you don't get as good of a cheek weld on the rifle.

stubblejumper 11-23-2008 03:47 PM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 
I would choose the 40mm scope because it can be mounted lower,and will be plenty bright for hunting during legal hours.

stalkingbear 11-23-2008 05:25 PM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 
The average human eye pupil only expands to about 5mm. So to keep clear sight thru a scope or binos in low light you have to have a 5mm exit pupil. That's how big the image is thru scope at proper eye relief. So with a 40mm scope,all you have to do is make sure it's turned down a tad so that it's under 8x or so to ensure maximum brightness for that scope. A 50mm isn't a bit brighter until you go above 8x.

hillbilly Jim 11-30-2008 11:20 AM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 
I have 3.5-10x50 Conquest mounted in med. rings on rem. 700 LA and still have 1/8 to 3/16 clearance cheekweld is perfect

B.B.A. 12-02-2008 03:20 AM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 
In lowlight I would go at least with the 50mm but rather 56mm forserious hunting inlow to nolight at all.

TreednNC 12-11-2008 11:26 AM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 
Little late on this, but I think a 56mm would make some hunter's outlaws....especially on a field in the am with a moon or bright sky, or in the evening. lol I wish I could afford a scope with a 56mm objective, if it were for just looking at what I hear coming in after 'dark' lol

dadof3 12-14-2008 09:58 AM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 
I don't have a 40mm but I do have 2 4.5x14-50mm and they work really well at first and last light.

stalkingbear 12-14-2008 11:24 AM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 
You seem to forget that in most places,it's HIGHLY illegal to hunt in the dark-especially for deer and other game animals.



ORIGINAL: B.B.A.
In lowlight I would go at least with the 50mm but rather 56mm forserious hunting inlow to nolight at all.

TreednNC 12-15-2008 07:46 AM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 

ORIGINAL: stalkingbear

You seem to forget that in most places,it's HIGHLY illegal to hunt in the dark-especially for deer and other game animals.



ORIGINAL: B.B.A.
In lowlight I would go at least with the 50mm but rather 56mm forserious hunting inlow to nolight at all.

True, but there are cloudy days, dark woods, creek bottoms, west side of fields with tall trees, etc....where light beats you before the clock does.

stubblejumper 12-15-2008 08:05 PM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 

True, but there are cloudy days, dark woods, creek bottoms, west side of fields with tall trees, etc....where light beats you before the clock does.
I have never hunted where a 40mm conquest was not adequate during legal hours.

TreednNC 12-16-2008 06:39 AM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 
Ive got a 44mm and get beat out on one stand in particular whether it's cloudy or not, just because it's in a hole....rarely does the clock tell me it's over before the light does, but it has happened, on a particularly cloudy, dark, ominous day...not by much, but sometimes all it takes is a minute or two more of being able to see through the scope to have sucess or none.

TreednNC 12-16-2008 06:40 AM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 
then again, I dont have a conquest.....but the major difference I see is at longer ranges....against dark edges.

stalkingbear 12-16-2008 09:01 AM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 
Coming from a diehard leupold fan for YEARS, I can attest to zeiss optical quality being superior. The resolution factor for these is GREAT-you can define tiny detail right out to the very edge of field of view. In cheaper or inferior optical quality scopes,this is only attainable by cranking the magnfication power up higher than what the zeiss is set on, and then only in the middle 3/4 area of the lens. In other words,what you can see with other cheaper scope at 12x,you'll actually be able to see with zeiss at 9x for example.

B.B.A. 12-17-2008 05:17 AM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 

You seem to forget that in most places,it's HIGHLY illegal to hunt in the dark-especially for deer and other game animals.
In most places? I'm not telling anyone to hunt illegal. Even if you only hunt from dawn to dusk there will be a big difference between a 40mm and a 56mm scope. I use my 56's at night during full moon on those shy big old boars.

stalkingbear 12-17-2008 09:49 AM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 
You've got to remember the vast majority of members are in usa and except for places like texas predator hunting,it's almost universally illegal to hunt at night in the us.








ORIGINAL: B.B.A.


You seem to forget that in most places,it's HIGHLY illegal to hunt in the dark-especially for deer and other game animals.
In most places? I'm not telling anyone to hunt illegal. Even if you only hunt from dawn to dusk there will be a big difference between a 40mm and a 56mm scope. I use my 56's at night during full moon on those shy big old boars.

B.B.A. 12-18-2008 05:14 AM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 

You've got to remember the vast majority of members are in usa and except for places like texas predator hunting,it's almost universally illegal to hunt at night in the us.
OK, so it is illegal in most states to hunt for hogs at night? I did get the impression that it was legal.

stalkingbear 12-18-2008 05:58 AM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 
That's correct, in most states, texas being 1 of the exceptions, it's illegal to hunt at night for anything, unless they've drastically changed their laws. Now in some places, you're allowed to shoot critters out of your crops to prevent further crop damage, but I wouldn't know which states that would be.






ORIGINAL: B.B.A.
OK, so it is illegal in most states to hunt for hogs at night? I did get the impression that it was legal.
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TreednNC 12-18-2008 06:41 AM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 

ORIGINAL: stubblejumper


True, but there are cloudy days, dark woods, creek bottoms, west side of fields with tall trees, etc....where light beats you before the clock does.
I have never hunted where a 40mm conquest was not adequate during legal hours.
Clock beat me by 10min lastnight....damp, cloudy afternoon, foggy too.........dont think it would have mattered though.....with the fog.

Deerhunter61 12-19-2008 04:44 PM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 
Do you own a Zeiss Conquest? I am wondering if you have personal experience regarding the difference between an American Swaro and Zeiss Conquest. I am thinking about making the American Swaro the next scopeI purchase. Right now Iown a few Conquests and they are great but Ihave always heard great things about Swaro.

stubblejumper 12-19-2008 06:27 PM

RE: Zeiss Conquest, 40mm or 50mm?
 

Do you own a Zeiss Conquest? I am wondering if you have personal experience regarding the difference between an American Swaro and Zeiss Conquest. I am thinking about making the American Swaro the next scopeI purchase. Right now Iown a few Conquests and they are great but Ihave always heard great things about Swaro.
I have owned both the 3x9x40 conquest,and the 3x10x42 swarovski AV.I prefer the Swarovski.


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