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salukipv1 06-14-2008 05:23 PM

Lapping? Reaming? Talley Mounts?
 
Just got some Talley mounts, wondering if / how to lap the rings, or if I need to on them?

Any particular tool etc....or reamer to use?

bigcountry 06-14-2008 07:50 PM

RE: Lapping? Reaming? Talley Mounts?
 
I use a wheeler ring lapping kit. I only lap the steel rings, I won't lap those light weight one piece alum talleys. Its hard to lap talleys due to thier design. You constantly have to take apart and wipe off the old lapping compound. Where with leupolds its much easier and most don't even lap with the ring tops on. I do.

oldelkhunter 06-15-2008 10:48 AM

RE: Lapping? Reaming? Talley Mounts?
 

Just got some Talley mounts, wondering if / how to lap the rings, or if I need to on them?

Any particular tool etc....or reamer to use?

If they are the steel rings good luck with that.Unless your gun has perfectly drilled scope base holes there is no way to avoid strain on a rifle scope with Talley steel rings. I don't know why people still buy those rings and bases except for a custom application where the receiver is redrilled to a larger size. I have lapped the aluminum rings and it was not a big deal just avoid using imbedding compound. BTW I had to lap them the scope was not bottoming in the base just a few back and forth strokes and it sat in the base perfectly.

DANTHEHUNTER 06-15-2008 01:45 PM

RE: Lapping? Reaming? Talley Mounts?
 
That wheeler kit BC talked about is what I use to. It does a great job and easy to use.It also has a alinging tool in the kit.Mine was around $30.00 so not to bad to purchase and it will last a life time.Maybe some lapping compound when you run out.

bigcountry 06-16-2008 04:52 PM

RE: Lapping? Reaming? Talley Mounts?
 

ORIGINAL: oldelkhunter


Just got some Talley mounts, wondering if / how to lap the rings, or if I need to on them?

Any particular tool etc....or reamer to use?

If they are the steel rings good luck with that.Unless your gun has perfectly drilled scope base holes there is no way to avoid strain on a rifle scope with Talley steel rings. I don't know why people still buy those rings and bases except for a custom application where the receiver is redrilled to a larger size. I have lapped the aluminum rings and it was not a big deal just avoid using imbedding compound. BTW I had to lap them the scope was not bottoming in the base just a few back and forth strokes and it sat in the base perfectly.
Hmm, I should have tried, but figured I would mess up the finish and could blue them like I could steel. To be honest, I kinda just trusted the name, and figured since they were one piece, they would be aligned.

See what youmade me do? I now have to go tear the scope off my 204 and see try to lap em.:D

gunnermhr 06-17-2008 07:31 PM

RE: Lapping? Reaming? Talley Mounts?
 
Oh Man, You guys need to try the Burris Signature Series rings. They have plastic inserts for self aligning. The 30mm even have 10 minute offset inserts for those really long shots. I know you're gonna get scared hearing the "Plastic" insert but believe me they work very well. I havea seton a gun with a lot of recoil and have no problems.

bigcountry 06-17-2008 09:12 PM

RE: Lapping? Reaming? Talley Mounts?
 

ORIGINAL: gunnermhr

Oh Man, You guys need to try the Burris Signature Series rings. They have plastic inserts for self aligning. The 30mm even have 10 minute offset inserts for those really long shots. I know you're gonna get scared hearing the "Plastic" insert but believe me they work very well. I havea seton a gun with a lot of recoil and have no problems.
Yea, and has the worst grip of any rings I have ever tried. Its the one set of rings that would slip on a 300RUM I found.

DANTHEHUNTER 06-18-2008 06:15 AM

RE: Lapping? Reaming? Talley Mounts?
 
I agree with BIG C I will stick to leupold on all but ruger 's and I love there rings .

gunnermhr 06-18-2008 06:07 PM

RE: Lapping? Reaming? Talley Mounts?
 
The gun I have them on is a 300Tomahawk. For those of you that are not familiar with the 300 Tomahawk it is a 300 RUM improved which is equal to the 30-378. Mine has a 10 twist which allows me to shoot 240 grain SMK's which has a lot more recoil than any 300 RUM. They do not slip or they would be in the garbage. To each his own.

bigcountry 06-18-2008 07:31 PM

RE: Lapping? Reaming? Talley Mounts?
 

ORIGINAL: gunnermhr

The gun I have them on is a 300Tomahawk. For those of you that are not familiar with the 300 Tomahawk it is a 300 RUM improved which is equal to the 30-378. Mine has a 10 twist which allows me to shoot 240 grain SMK's which has a lot more recoil than any 300 RUM. They do not slip or they would be in the garbage. To each his own.
Good luck

salukipv1 06-27-2008 01:34 PM

RE: Lapping? Reaming? Talley Mounts?
 
Got them mounted and lapped, now I just have to test em out!



oldelkhunter 06-27-2008 02:15 PM

RE: Lapping? Reaming? Talley Mounts?
 

Oh Man, You guys need to try the Burris Signature Series rings. They have plastic inserts for self aligning. The 30mm even have 10 minute offset inserts for those really long shots. I know you're gonna get scared hearing the "Plastic" insert but believe me they work very well. I havea seton a gun with a lot of recoil and have no problems.

Yeah of which the steel is pot metal just watch pieces of the lugs shear as you twist them in place and they are bulky to boot. If your going to buy bulky rings just buy Tactical rings. Now if that Burris ring was made of the same material as a Sako Optilock then you would have said something. I have never had a scope slip in one of those ever.

gunnermhr 06-28-2008 05:14 AM

RE: Lapping? Reaming? Talley Mounts?
 
Old Elk hunter you haven't even tried the Buris Sig. Zee rings rings from the sounds of things. Don't knock something unless you have the facts. These are Weaver style. If you tried to twist them into place you have a serious problem. They slide on like a Picatinny rail. Sure there are better rings out there but for the money these are pretty nice. If you are looking for the best go with the Badger Tactical rings. I'm just saying instead of spending $150 for Badger you can use the Burris and they will not mark up any scope you put into them. Oh yea did anyone say self align no lapping needed.

bigcountry 06-28-2008 09:15 AM

RE: Lapping? Reaming? Talley Mounts?
 

ORIGINAL: gunnermhr

Old Elk hunter you haven't even tried the Buris Sig. Zee rings rings from the sounds of things. Don't knock something unless you have the facts. These are Weaver style. If you tried to twist them into place you have a serious problem. They slide on like a Picatinny rail. Sure there are better rings out there but for the money these are pretty nice. If you are looking for the best go with the Badger Tactical rings. I'm just saying instead of spending $150 for Badger you can use the Burris and they will not mark up any scope you put into them. Oh yea did anyone say self align no lapping needed.
Actually burris makes signature series with inserts for leupold bases and the zee series for weaver bases.

What are you actually referring too?

http://www.midwayusa.com/esearch.exe/search?search_keywords=burris+signature+rings& category_selector=all_products

gunnermhr 06-28-2008 09:48 AM

RE: Lapping? Reaming? Talley Mounts?
 
The ones Iuse are labled "Custom Steel Rings-Signature ZEE Rings-30mm Extra High Matte Black-420585". It's clear to me that I have no Idea what I'm talking about so I'll let it up to you experts. I'm sorry to intervine.

oldelkhunter 06-28-2008 03:33 PM

RE: Lapping? Reaming? Talley Mounts?
 

Old Elk hunter you haven't even tried the Buris Sig. Zee rings rings from the sounds of things. Don't knock something unless you have the facts. These are Weaver style. If you tried to twist them into place you have a serious problem. They slide on like a Picatinny rail. Sure there are better rings out there but for the money these are pretty nice. If you are looking for the best go with the Badger Tactical rings. I'm just saying instead of spending $150 for Badger you can use the Burris and they will not mark up any scope you put into them. Oh yea did anyone say self align no lapping needed.
If they are made of the same crap steel that the rotary dovetail models are made of they aren't worth the packaging they are put in. I have purchased 3 pairs of Burris signature rings all rotary base and all a piece of crap..did you want me to purchase more of the same?


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