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Jeff Ovington 04-21-2007 10:50 PM

Swarovski AV series scopes..
 
Looking to buy a new scope for a .270...
Just a 1.5 -6 x 42 variable or 6 x 42 fixed........
Its been quite a while since my last scope purchase...My currentrifles all carry Leupolds...
Although the Conquest line has raised my eyebrows..And I'm seriously thing about purchasing one...
However, on the counter they had a brochure on the Swaro A.V. Series
and and couple of their fixed power models...
These are almost twice as much as themodels I was looking at from either of ones offered by Ziess or Leupold,but are't out of my budget either...
They retail for about 1100 - 1300 Cnd depending on model..
No models are currently available for me to look through,so I'm just wondering are they worth looking into further..
I guess what I'm asking, are they that much better than the Coquest line to warrant double the price...

stubblejumper 04-21-2007 11:08 PM

RE: Swarovski AV series scopes..
 
I own four 3x10x42 av scopes.In my opinion,the optics are slightly better than the conquest,but in a scope even lighter and more compact than comparable leupolds.

bugsNbows 04-22-2007 08:17 AM

RE: Swarovski AV series scopes..
 
Only you can determine if they are worth "double the price". They are very good scopes that's for sure. If $ isn't a big decider, you may wish to check out the new Swaro Z 6 or the Leupold VX-7 line. I also really like the optical quality and clarity of Kahles CL scopes. The Zeiss Conquest's are good, and carry a huge following here. Just put the best glass on you can afford. I'm a huge fan of Leuppy's tho. The VXIII's have always been great for me. Some folks think they are way overpriced, but the Leupold customer is top notch (FWIW). To each his own.

trailer 04-22-2007 06:36 PM

RE: Swarovski AV series scopes..
 
I also have a couple of Swarovski. I knew I was getting another one after my first one. Are they worth it, to me they are. I haven’t had a chance to make any comparison between the Swarovski and the Zeiss Conquest at this time but maybe later this summer...

Jeff Ovington 04-23-2007 04:43 AM

RE: Swarovski AV series scopes..
 
Thanks for your response guys.......
From your respose maybe its worth looking into..
On my next trip to Vancouver, I'll compare the Conquest and Swaro for myself....

.44 Cooter 04-27-2007 07:18 PM

RE: Swarovski AV series scopes..
 
im looking at the Swarovski AV 4-12x50. any thoughts or feedback on it?

trailer 04-27-2007 08:25 PM

RE: Swarovski AV series scopes..
 


ORIGINAL: .44 Cooter

im looking at the Swarovski AV 4-12x50. any thoughts or feedback on it?
I have both 3-10 x 42 mm and 4-12 x 50 mm and to be honest, I really can’t see that much difference between the two in low light conditions. If I get another one for a hunting rifle, I’ll stay with the 42 instead of the 50. Not as bulky and mounts lower to the rifle...

retrieverman 04-27-2007 09:25 PM

RE: Swarovski AV series scopes..
 
I have several Conquests and one Swarovski AV, and for my eyes, it is toss up which is better. As far as cosmetics, the Swarov is hands down a "classier" looking scope.

As far as price, I bought my Swarov NIB off ebay for $650 shipped. There are some deals to be found, but you have to look for them.

stubblejumper 04-27-2007 10:06 PM

RE: Swarovski AV series scopes..
 
I looked at the 4x12x50 as well,and I didn't see much difference.However I really don't need 12x for big game hunting,and the 3x10x42 can be mounted lower.

.44 Cooter 04-29-2007 03:24 PM

RE: Swarovski AV series scopes..
 
so at twilight i wouldnt see any diffrence in a 3x10x42 than a 4x10x50?

stubblejumper 04-29-2007 03:40 PM

RE: Swarovski AV series scopes..
 

so at twilight i wouldnt see any diffrence in a 3x10x42 than a 4x10x50?
A hunting partner of mine owns a 4x12x50,and comparing it to my own 3x10x42s at dusk and dawn, I certainly don't see a significant difference.The 3x10x42 is plenty bright for use during the legal hours where I hunt,that being 1/2 hour before sunrise to 1/2 hour after sunset.

.44 Cooter 04-29-2007 04:08 PM

RE: Swarovski AV series scopes..
 
thanks. well the 3x10x432 is about $949 and the 4x12x50 is about $999 so im just trying to figure out whats the best way to go. from what most are saying they are about the same.

trailer 04-29-2007 04:18 PM

RE: Swarovski AV series scopes..
 


ORIGINAL: stubblejumper

The 3x10x42 is plenty bright for use during the legal hours where I hunt,that being 1/2 hour before sunrise to 1/2 hour after sunset.
Ditto...

trailer 04-29-2007 04:23 PM

RE: Swarovski AV series scopes..
 


ORIGINAL: .44 Cooter

from what most are saying they are about the same.
Check this site if you would like some technical data...

http://www.swarovskioptik.com/index....e=Habicht%20AV

stubblejumper 04-29-2007 04:45 PM

RE: Swarovski AV series scopes..
 
To me the biggest differences are the slightly lower magnification that is handy at close range when hunting in heavy cover,and the fact that the 3x10x42 can be mounted lower,allowing a better cheeck position on the stock.

trailer 04-29-2007 05:29 PM

RE: Swarovski AV series scopes..
 
I have my 4-12 x 50 mm mounted on my 270 WSM for open fields and use my 3-10 x 42 mm for heavy cover. I have to agree with the 42 mm being more practical for heavy cover. I used a 50 mm scope one time deer hunting doing a push on a drive and it was no treat...

stubblejumper 04-29-2007 07:05 PM

RE: Swarovski AV series scopes..
 
The 3x10x42 is very versatile,and is an excellent choice for big game hunting at all distances.I have mine mounted on 7mmstw and 300 ultramag rifles,and have taken big game at distances from 20 yards to 480 yards.

.44 Cooter 04-29-2007 07:48 PM

RE: Swarovski AV series scopes..
 
so are yall saying that the 4x12x50 might actually be a negative or that the 3x10x43 would be just as good for hunting in deep covered woods??????????????????

stubblejumper 04-29-2007 07:59 PM

RE: Swarovski AV series scopes..
 

so are yall saying that the 4x12x50 might actually be a negative or that the 3x10x43 would be just as good for hunting in deep covered woods??????????????????
In my opinion the 3x10x42 would be a better choice for close ranges or for heavy cover,and it is still a great choice for open country or longer range big game hunting.I consider having to mount the 4x12x50 higher to be a negative.

trailer 04-30-2007 05:34 AM

RE: Swarovski AV series scopes..
 


ORIGINAL: .44 Cooter

the 3x10x42 would be just as good for hunting in deep covered woods??????????????????
Definitely in my opinion...

.44 Cooter 04-30-2007 06:44 AM

RE: Swarovski AV series scopes..
 
all i know is i have simmons 3-9x40mmon my rifle now and it sucks. i cant hardly see anything at twilight. i was just thinking since the 4x12x50 is only $50 more than the 3x12x42why not, but i see yalls point about the size being a factor.

trailer 04-30-2007 07:52 AM

RE: Swarovski AV series scopes..
 
You could always get the 50 mm and try it out for yourself. I had purchased the 50 mm because it was going on my Sako and the lowest Optiloc rings could accommodate for a 52 mm ( = or -) so I went that route. Knowing what I know now I much prefer the 42 mm. Should have listed to stubblejumper in the first place. I just had to try it and see for myself.:eek: Good luck in your choice...

.44 Cooter 04-30-2007 11:38 AM

RE: Swarovski AV series scopes..
 

ORIGINAL: trailer

You could always get the 50 mm and try it out for yourself. I had purchased the 50 mm because it was going on my Sako and the lowest Optiloc rings could accommodate for a 52 mm ( = or -) so I went that route. Knowing what I know now I much prefer the 42 mm. Should have listed to stubblejumper in the first place. I just had to try it and see for myself.:eek: Good luck in your choice...
yeah like im going to do that and have everyone say i told you so. i may just go with the 42mm.

trailer 04-30-2007 01:06 PM

RE: Swarovski AV series scopes..
 
Well stubblejumper has never said “I told you so” but I bet he had a smirk after what I had posted...;):D

stubblejumper 04-30-2007 08:11 PM

RE: Swarovski AV series scopes..
 

all i know is i have simmons 3-9x40mmon my rifle now and it sucks.
Your problem is the scope quality and not the lens size.In my opinion lens quality and coatings are much more important than lens diameter.


Well stubblejumper has never said “I told you so” but I bet he had a smirk after what I had posted...
Just a little grin.:DOver the years I too have learned a great deal by trying things for myself.


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