Monarch or Buckmaster
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RE: Monarch or Buckmaster
The monarch is a good deal in its price range. Its got glass thats better than most any thing sold for the same price. Expect to pay about $250 for a 3x9x40 Monarch. Thats a sweet spot that Leupold, Burris don't really compete well in. The one scope that I feel competes well at that price is the 3x9x40 Bushnell elite at about $260. I am not sure its better or worse than the Monarch but the ones I have looked through are bright clear scopes and they have Rainguard.
The buckmaster is a quality scope butit has some competition. If my budget was limited to the buckmaster price range Id do theBurris Fullfield II. I would expect to pay around $210 for a 3x9x40 buckmaster and you can get a 3x9x40 FFII on ebay around $160 or $190 from various internet vendors.
Although I know lots of folks will disagree. The FFII/Elite 3200/Buckmaster are about as cheap a scope Id put on a rifle for deer or larger game. I have has a number of simmons, bushnells and tasco bite the dust. My time is too valuable to hunt with a scope I can't trust.
The buckmaster is a quality scope butit has some competition. If my budget was limited to the buckmaster price range Id do theBurris Fullfield II. I would expect to pay around $210 for a 3x9x40 buckmaster and you can get a 3x9x40 FFII on ebay around $160 or $190 from various internet vendors.
Although I know lots of folks will disagree. The FFII/Elite 3200/Buckmaster are about as cheap a scope Id put on a rifle for deer or larger game. I have has a number of simmons, bushnells and tasco bite the dust. My time is too valuable to hunt with a scope I can't trust.
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RE: Monarch or Buckmaster
ORIGINAL: NoKnees
Although I know lots of folks will disagree. The FFII/Elite 3200/Buckmaster are about as cheap a scope Id put on a rifle for deer or larger game. I have has a number of simmons, bushnells and tasco bite the dust. My time is too valuable to hunt with a scope I can't trust.
Although I know lots of folks will disagree. The FFII/Elite 3200/Buckmaster are about as cheap a scope Id put on a rifle for deer or larger game. I have has a number of simmons, bushnells and tasco bite the dust. My time is too valuable to hunt with a scope I can't trust.
I totally agree with that statement.
I would go with the Monarch between the 2 if you have the funds. The best Ive seen the 3x9's for are 299. If you can get one for 250 that a pretty good deal. The Monarchs are the same level quality as the Leupold VX III's compare those 2 in price and the choice is obvious. The Buckmaster is a fine scope, the Monarchs are a bit clearer and brighter.
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RE: Monarch or Buckmaster
If you can part with the money, the monarch is a great choice.
The difference in scopes mentioned goes like this.
Monarch - great glass and fully multicoated , no side focus for higher power A.O. scopes. 95 % light transmission.
Buckmasters - really good glass , multicoated but not fully multicoated and higher power scopes are offered with side focus A.O. 92 % light transmission.
Prostaff - really good glass , multicoated but not fully, 90 % light transmission.
Burris fullfield II - really good glass , fully multicoated , 42mm Obj. , no side focus for higher power A.O scopes. about 94 - 95% light transmission.
Bushnell 3200 - really good glass , multicoated but not fully , rainguard , no side focus for higher power A.O. scopes. about 92 - 93 % light transmission.
Bushnell 4200 - great glass , fully multicoated , rainguard , no side focus for higher power A.O. scopes. 95 % light transmission.
Weaver grand slam - really good glass , fully multicoated , no side focus for higher power A.O.scopes. about 92 -93 % light transmission.
From what I understand, the warranty service is about the same for any of these manufacturers. As far as most dependable product goes , I know the Nikons are great , and I have heard the Bushnell 4200's are great. The buckmasters I know work well, I own 4 of them. The 3200's and Fullfield II's are supposed to be really good but I have no experience with them. The Weavers, I have not heard anything about and have no recent experience with.
Hope this helps. Here is a link to the Nikon Monarch, and you can go through the site to checkout the others, if you so desire, from this link. This place has the best overall prices I have found.
http://theopticzone.com/detail.aspx?ID=2343
Merry CHRISTmas
Light transmission percentages submitted are from the individual scope manufacturers technical support departments as of 12-21-2006.
As per Weaver , anything over 90 % is very bright , and the difference between a scope at 90 % or one at 95 % cannot be distinguished by the naked eye..... But I do not agree with that philosophy. MET
The difference in scopes mentioned goes like this.
Monarch - great glass and fully multicoated , no side focus for higher power A.O. scopes. 95 % light transmission.
Buckmasters - really good glass , multicoated but not fully multicoated and higher power scopes are offered with side focus A.O. 92 % light transmission.
Prostaff - really good glass , multicoated but not fully, 90 % light transmission.
Burris fullfield II - really good glass , fully multicoated , 42mm Obj. , no side focus for higher power A.O scopes. about 94 - 95% light transmission.
Bushnell 3200 - really good glass , multicoated but not fully , rainguard , no side focus for higher power A.O. scopes. about 92 - 93 % light transmission.
Bushnell 4200 - great glass , fully multicoated , rainguard , no side focus for higher power A.O. scopes. 95 % light transmission.
Weaver grand slam - really good glass , fully multicoated , no side focus for higher power A.O.scopes. about 92 -93 % light transmission.
From what I understand, the warranty service is about the same for any of these manufacturers. As far as most dependable product goes , I know the Nikons are great , and I have heard the Bushnell 4200's are great. The buckmasters I know work well, I own 4 of them. The 3200's and Fullfield II's are supposed to be really good but I have no experience with them. The Weavers, I have not heard anything about and have no recent experience with.
Hope this helps. Here is a link to the Nikon Monarch, and you can go through the site to checkout the others, if you so desire, from this link. This place has the best overall prices I have found.
http://theopticzone.com/detail.aspx?ID=2343
Merry CHRISTmas
Light transmission percentages submitted are from the individual scope manufacturers technical support departments as of 12-21-2006.
As per Weaver , anything over 90 % is very bright , and the difference between a scope at 90 % or one at 95 % cannot be distinguished by the naked eye..... But I do not agree with that philosophy. MET
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RE: Monarch or Buckmaster
ORIGINAL: MichaelT.
Monarch - great glass and fully multicoated , no side focus for higher power A.O. scopes. 95 % light transmission.
Buckmasters - really good glass , multicoated but not fully multicoated and higher power scopes are offered with side focus A.O. 92 % light transmission.
Burris fullfield II - really good glass , fully multicoated , 42mm Obj. , no side focus for higher power A.O scopes. about 93 % light transmission.
Bushnell 3200 - really good glass , multicoated but not fully , rainguard , no side focus for higher power A.O. scopes. about 92 % light transmission.
Bushnell 4200 - great glass , fully multicoated , rainguard , no side focus for higher power A.O. scopes. 95 % light transmission.
Monarch - great glass and fully multicoated , no side focus for higher power A.O. scopes. 95 % light transmission.
Buckmasters - really good glass , multicoated but not fully multicoated and higher power scopes are offered with side focus A.O. 92 % light transmission.
Burris fullfield II - really good glass , fully multicoated , 42mm Obj. , no side focus for higher power A.O scopes. about 93 % light transmission.
Bushnell 3200 - really good glass , multicoated but not fully , rainguard , no side focus for higher power A.O. scopes. about 92 % light transmission.
Bushnell 4200 - great glass , fully multicoated , rainguard , no side focus for higher power A.O. scopes. 95 % light transmission.
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RE: Monarch or Buckmaster
Some light transmission numbers come from the manufacturers websites, some others have come from magazine reports I have read on the scopes.
The scopes that are fully multicoated will , in identical power and objective sized scopes, with comparable quality glass,always transmit more light.
The scopes that are fully multicoated will , in identical power and objective sized scopes, with comparable quality glass,always transmit more light.