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I posted once before on the new X ring counting as 11 points.....Most people said they were subtracting dropped points from 330 instead of 300

I contacted the IBO Office asked them...The responce I got was that if a person shot 29-10' s and nine of those were 11' s and one 8 was shot thier score would be a 309. Not a 328, which is what you would get if you used 330 to subtract the dropped points

Ken, from the IBO is the one that explained it this way to me.

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Would someone explain subtracting dropped points?

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This is what I see

9 x 11 = 99

20 x 10 =200

1 x 8 = 8

total 307

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awingnut,

I get the same thing. I' m thinking subtract dropped scores means starting from the maximum possible score and subtracting the respective points below the 11 ring. Sometimes I overlook the obvious and want to ensure this is not one of them.

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wingnut has it right. It doesn' t work out to 309, 307.
TJ, you seem to be counting 11' s as 1 point bonuses. There is no " bonus," just an 11, 10 8, 5, and 0.
You stated, " 29 - 10' s and nine of those were 11' s." Well, it was actually 20 - 10' s and 9 - 11' s.
New2, subtracting is just a different way of keeping score. For example, if your at the first of 30 targets and you shoot an 8, you score is now 327. At the next target, you shoot a 5, your score is now 322; the next target you shoot 11, your score remains 322, etc.
It' s just like shooting an indoor 300 round: every time you shoot a 4 you subtract one from 300.

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RustyWreck, I think your wrong the only way you would would have a 327 with one eight out of ten targets is if the first 29 were all 11' s, then one eight....Then your score would be 228.

If the first 29 were only 10' s then one eight your score would be 298. The only way you can get the 330 is with all 11' s, So in order to keep score your surpose to use 300 as possible points and any 11' s count as 1 extra point on the final score..

awingnut is correct in the score posted, but if you use 330 its not.

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Thanks Rustywreck. Makes sense now.

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To get a 330 score you would have to hit 30 11' s. You said 9 11,s

328 score would give you 28 11,s that if the other 2 arrow were 10,s


330
- 307
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23 point drop

I hope this helps you.

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Tj, check your math: 29x11=319. 8x1=8. 319+8=327.
My friend, your just not getting it. There are no bonus points. If a course has 30 targets, the best possible score would be 330. Not 300 plus bonus points.
If, on a 30 target course, you were to count down, you would start at 330, not 300. Actually, you can do it any way you wish, but it' s either going to be wrong or more difficult.
I' ll bet you an ice cream cone that there is no " Bonus" column on the IBO score cards.

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Rustywreck, I said 20x 10 =200th Nine 11' s which is 9 extra points,added the 200 is now 299with the 8 shot now make it a 307, which is what you would get if you used 300as the base score with each 11 counting as 1 " extra" point. If you use 330 as the base score you get the 328 you were referring to.



Like I said From what they told me at the IBO was that the score was still 300 with the 10X you had a possible 330.....But you still use 300 as your base score adding any extra points along the way from the x ring wich is 1 extra point for each x ring you get.

Im not trying to start a contraversy but I think this whole x ring counting as 11 has caused some confusion when it comes to scoreing...........I dont think Im the one that is confuse either..

This is how they explained it to me...IF you dont understand what Im trying to get across maybe talking to the people at the IBO will help .

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tjs: I believe that a break in comunication has occured. A perfect possible score for 30 targets is 330. You can look at that in any way you wish. 30 - 11 pt targets or 30 - 10 point targets with an additional 1 point for every X. 30 x 10=300 + 30 possible points for X' s = 330. No matter which way you view it the total possible is 330 pts.

Using your example of scoring hits it would work like this:
(9 X' s) 9x11 = 99
(20 - 10' s) 20x10 = 200
(1 - 8) 1x8 = 8
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99+200+8 = 307

If you wish to subtract:
(9 - X' s) 9x0 = 0 (330 - 0 = 330)
(20 10' s) 20x1 = 20 (330 - 20 = 310)
(1 - 8) 1x3 = 3 (310 - 3 = 307)

I think what is throwing you is that you are failing to subtract the appropriate number. The appropriate scoring now is :

X' s = either +11 or -0
10' s = either +10 or -1
8' s = either +8 or -3
5' s = either +5 or -6
misses = either +0 or -11

I promise you that this is correct. Hope it helps.

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Bluejacket, You are correct in scoring, and thats what I have been trying to say all along but it seems not everyone else gets it.

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Tj, I' m sorry but Bluejackets last post is not what you were saying.
Nonetheless, I give up.
My bet still stands on the IBO score card counting X' s as bonus point: If the scorecard has a place for bonus X points, the ice cream is on me; if not, you owe me a double scoop.

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Its really pretty simple. there is no longer a thing called an X. The score card will have 11,10,8,5,0 you will mark the right column. At the end count up the total in each column, multiply each by its score, and add together. All done.

--Bob

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Amen!
ken12[:-]

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[8D] Thanks Bob H for putting the correct formula back on the chaulkboard!!!
It seems like some people just can' t get anything and love to twist everything into something it isn,t. If you let them , they would lead people to believe that the Sun revolves around the Earth.

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Bob H has given the best way to do your scores especially at the national and world level shoots add your score DO NOT subtract. The reason for this is if you subtract 10 from 440 = 430, 10 from 330 = 320 and this happens people forget they are shooting a 40 target range and subtract like they do at a club shoot or other qualifier. Once you sign that card the score you have on it is yours it does not get changed once it is turned in so add and then add again because I do not want to be the one that tells you that you made a mistake and it can not be changed and it cost you 1st place, this sounds like preaching but make sure it is right this is probably one of the worst things to deal with at the shoots.

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I don' t want to take anything away from Bob H., but scoring 11, 10, 8, 5,0 has been mentioned several times in this thread.
That has been the point of several of us: X are now 11. Not bonus points, not X' s plus one, etc.
Though it is correct to score your card by adding up, as you go through the shoot a shooter can keep track of his score " in his head" by using the subtracting method. This can be helpful if you are not one of the score keepers and are that concerned about your score. Counting down gives you a better idea of the pace you are on than adding up as you go.
As I recall, the IBO score cards are punched so there really is no math until the end anyway.