payouts for Bedford?
 

How long does it take to receive the payouts from the Bedford shoot? How can you tell if you shot well enough to win? I thought that the top 20% of the shooters received money payouts. Is this correct? Thanks for any helpful information.

RE: payouts for Bedford?
 

Those check have all been sent. Please call the office if you have not received yours. 440-967-2137
:)
Judy

RE: payouts for Bedford?
 

Got it in the mail today, thanks. One question as I have not been shooting IBO long. The payout sheet attached to my check showed 107 shooters in my class. We each paid a $50.00 entry fee which comes to $5,350.00 total. The payout amount shows $1,070.00 for my class total. The IBO as I understand it gets $6.00 per shooter. This comes to $642.00 added to the payout amount totals up to $1.712.00 paid out for the class. This leaves $3,638.00 that seems like a very low payout percentage to the shooters. Is this correct?

RE: payouts for Bedford?
 

No - not for "amatuers".

I understand the opportunity for money is in the pro classes.

Steve

RE: payouts for Bedford?
 

NOT FOR "AMATUERS"

Are you kidding me. So the amatures are good enough to take there money but not good enough to give more of it back to them. This is exactly the reason I am shooting the ASA shoots and not the IBO. Becausethe IBO doesn'tcare about the little people enough to try to make them happy they would rather make the pros happy. Well I would venture to say that if the pro division was cut out of the shoots all together the shoots would still pull good numbers because the grass roots is what keeps the shoots going. I won hunter class in the ASAFL shoot and won$417.00 dollars. The ASA pays out 75% of theentry fees taken. So I wouldsayYES it is a very low payout percentage for the so called "AMATUERS"

I live in Ohio and will pay more to get to theASA shoots because they are the shooters choice and you don't have to be a"PRO" to be a shooter and get alittle something for having a good weekend of shooting.

RE: payouts for Bedford?
 

My personal thoughts - and I in no way represent the IBO - is that there should be NO cash rewards for amateurs at any shoot.
Nice trophies and or mementos (buckles, shirts, etc)
Gift certificates or similar given randomly to a % of all participants.

If you want to shoot for cash, step up and play with the pro's.
And like it or not, if you don't shoot pro, you are an amateur.

If you depend on winning cash in the amateur classes to shoot, priorities need to be re evaluated.

JMO

Steve

RE: payouts for Bedford?
 

I agree that I am in an amateur class. The Advanced Hunter class started out as the "Money Hunter Class" a couple of years ago to give the hunter class guys a chance to move up and win a little money. The name was changed to the advanced hunter class but it is still a money class. Our local shoots payback at least 40% to the winners. The winner of the AHC got only $101.90 for first place out of a 107 shooters. I still say that this is not a good payout on the amount of entry fees paid in.As the above post stated;ASA at Gainesville with a 102 shooters in the hunter class, paid $417.00 to the winner, and 14th place even paid out $101.00 which is more than the winner got out of a 107 shooters at Bedford. At the Mississippi ASA shoot the winner of the hunter class got $354.00 out of 67 shooters. 9th place even paid $108.00.....

RE: payouts for Bedford?
 

I agree that if your wanting to make money shooting a bow then yes you do need to shoot the pro classes. But 95% of the shooters are not pro shooters and I have never went to a bow shoot needing to win money. But I do think that the IBO has a problem on their hands and have done nothing to fix it. My outlook is I shoot to have fun regardless of how well or poorly Ishoot. Meeting good people and being outdoors does it for me, but if a shooter has a good weekend of shooting why not give money back to him or her. I am not an ASA homer I live in IBO country and go south for many reasons that have to do with how the IBO runs thier baby. Or the baby they subout to a local bow shop and then point the finger at them. There needs to be something done about the payout system for all the shooters regardless of pro or amateur. They also need to come up with a better and stronger move up policy. And I know people don't want to more up and thats what hunter class if for the people who are happy where they are but if their were more open classes made people would up. Moving into MBO would be very hard move for a new shooter to have success because he is shooting against people who have been shooting longer then they have. If they would have different levels of open classes then people could progress into high levels of shooting which would allow more people to have a chance in time to experence success. I would rather shoot the IBO shoots then the ASAs because they would be closer and alot easier for me to get to but why support something that doesn't support the shooters that bring them thier numbers.

These are just my thoughts

RE: payouts for Bedford?
 

I believe that the IBO does indeed care about the little people. That is how we the amateurs got a pay back. It used to be years ago there were amateurs and manufacture shooters. We all recieved trophies. Then the Manufacture shooters wanted money pay outs so their entry fee was raised substantially and they became Pros. After us, the amateurs seen the pay outs the pros recieved, we decided we had enough trophies, we now want money too. The shooters then signed petitions the IBO put out at registrations for that. It was agreed we would pay $10.00 more in entry fee money that would go towards pay outs. It used to be good enough for us to recieve a trophy at one of the national triple crown shoots. By recieving one of those trophies we new we had accomplished something very few archers ever get to feel. The feeling of being better that weekend than all the other shooters from all over our country who had also traveled to the same location to try and feel that rush. How someone could be mad about shooting in the top ten of their class at a national triple crown shoot I'll never understand. So I guess if we're all looking to get rich shooting a bow, then some of us are going to be really disappionted, and be all means use the forums to express it, that is what everyone wants to read about, your rights.

RE: payouts for Bedford?
 

UP - my thoughts exactly!

I got lucky in 2003 - shot over my head and finished 2nd at the Worlds.
Trad class - pd like $200, with no certificate or trophy.
Money was gone driving home - I much rather would have had a trophy, buckle, or anything to help remember it other then a picture of a check.
Again - JMOP.

Steve