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hey has anyone heard anything about pa going to a no rifle to hunt state dad was telling me something about it wanted to hear if anyone heard anything.

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Nothing to it Greek. State has proposed to do a study on safety of rifles versus shotgun slugs. Other than that nothing is happening.
Here's a news article on it for reference.
The Game and Fisheries endorsement means the legislation, House Resolution 61, moves to the House floor. Lawmakers are expected to vote on the measure early next month.

If the measure is passed, the Legislative Budget and Finance Committee would hire an independent risk assessment specialist to conduct the study in cooperation with the state Game Commission, which is responsible for setting and enforcing hunting seasons and regulations.

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I would think that if anything changes it would be in the SRA's.

I'm really not sure that would be all bad. I know that almost all of 2B is getting pretty well developed and besides, todays slug guns are a far cry from the punkinballs of yesteryear. They are very effective weapons these days. many are still deadly out to 150+ yards.

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Ido not know why the Gameboys would want more shotguns. I read where 1 of every 4 property damage claims is caused by a shotgun while they are less then 1% of all guns used for hunting.
when I was stationed in NC we could use rifle from a treestand but only shotgun on ground level by what I read most states that have shotguns only soon go to a short gun season then but make bow season longer. that don't seem fair to the gun hunters

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Tsk Tsk Tsk there TB. Rule 15 violation.

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Dont bother me ,thats all I have used for years.

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Center fire rifles are currently banned in SRA counties.

Sen. Boscola is currrently pushing to have rifles banned in her district which includes Lehigh Co. where Tracey Burns was shot. However ,most of Lehigh Co. is in 5C ,not 3 D where the hunting accident occurred. WMU 3 D includes Monroe ,Pike wayne and parts of Lack. , Luz. and Carbon. Therefore,they would either have to redraw the WMU boundaries ,or just make Lehigh and northampton shotgun only and use the county boundaries instead of the WMU boundaries.

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Not quite true.

I dont know about the SRA's in the east. It may be the case there but out here in the west, rifles are allowed in that part of 2B that is outside of Allegheny County. We were all surprised when the PGC created the new WMU's that they didnt do that(restrict it to shotguns) but they didn't. The fact remains, however, that rifles are legal weapons in some of 2B. All of which is an SRA.

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Wrong again!!! I challenge you to cite one quote from the PGC that states 2 B is an SRA WMU. The fact is that the term 'SRA" refers specifically to the use of certain weapons in certain counties. There is only one WMU that is entirely a SRA WMU and that is 5 D. But, part of chester Co. is in 5 c which is not an SRA WMU.

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Ok you are technically correct. Gotta say though that I have heard WCO's here refer to 2B (not just Allegheny County) as an SRA due to the extended season. They were one and the same before the new WMU's.
In any case, I stand corrected.

What I should have said at first is that we are likely to see a shotguns only reg first appear in the remainder of 2B and 5C and 5D before it happens elsewhere.

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Wrong again. WMU 5 D is already entirely shotgun only so it can not be expanded in that WMU. If they include the remainder of 5C and 2b ,it should also be extended to 5 B.

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Geez, I think everyone here knew what I meant.
I just said I stand corrected and I also said I didnt know the eastern SRA's that well.

How's this: The first place likely to see a shotgun only restriction (IMHO) is the rest of the WMU's around our two major cities. Is that good enough?

Maybe you need to lighten up, take a chill pill, go have a beer:D

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I bet you could nail a lot of bowhunters for using the 50 yd safety zone in the areas of 2B that aren't special regulations areas. I just looked up the regs and it states only the counties listed as special regs it applies to. I have heard SOOOO many people just refer to 2B as a whole as special regs.

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I'm asking, not declaring. God knows I dont want to get DD's panties in a bunch again! But didnt they take the archery safety zone to 50 statewide this year?

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You seem to take great pleasure in picking my posts apart even though they are based on PGC data. I am simply returning the favor. Furthermore, for your information ,I had a beer with dinner, a SC Old Fashion with pineapple as an after dinner drink and a Black Russian as a night cap.

But, the fact remains that the areas with te highest OWDD's are the SRA COUNTIES and implementing shotgun only in additional areas will only make the problem worse. More people are killed by deer related car accidents each year that are killed due to accidental shootings of non-hunters,during deeer season.

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Have a few more will ya:D

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The safety zone for all archers is 50 yards, statewide. Signed into law June 23, 2004.

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Thought so. Thanks T !

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what areas can you not use rifle in already.

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I do agree with ddear that if rifles are removed completed from the heavily populated areas of the state then the deer population is going to boom....unless other measures are taken to help counteract that problem. Some hunters may go out and convert their shotguns for deer use but then some may just pack it in entirely. With the possibility of fewer hunters out there and the shorter effective range of a shotgun then deer numbers are highly unlikely to be reduced. What possible solutions or strategies can you folks come up with to help reduce the large deer herd in heavily populated areas?

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For heavily populated areas, archery season for does should come in sept 15th and run to jan 31 and never go out. The other normal seasons can run thier course otherwise.

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I agree that we dont want to do anyhting to hamper the kill in heavily developed and overpopulated areas. Here's something to consider. Removing rifles from the heavily developed areas might also make it easier to get landowner permission. Maybe not immediately but over time. JMHO.

I dont really favor any expansion of the shotgun only zones, just resigned to the idea that it may be inevitable and wouldn't be inclined to fight it too hard.

Rybo is right about expanding archery for doe only in these areas. In many cases it's the only feasible option other than the sharpshooter option.

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I live in NY and in our area and a large part of the entire state is shotgun only. We have no problem controlling deer numbers.

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Allegheny, Bucks, Chester, Montgomery and Delaware counties.

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so you can hunt york and lancaster counties with rifle then right

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In some of those SRA's where shotgun is required it is also buckshot only as well.My home state is shotgun so I will still go up to camp and hunt whitetails....