PA hunters doing their part
 

OK kids.For those that support scientific deer management and feel the deer are destroying the habitat as the DCNR claims,here's a question fer ya.
Will you be doing your part this year and hunting the state forests to get the herd down to the desired levels?If you support the deer management program I would think you'll be helping thin out the herd on our forest land to save the over browsed habitat.
If you are planning to contribute to the cause all I gotta say is have fun!
It's not easy hunting from sun up to sundown and seeing one or two deer.It's a tough job but somebody has to do it.Too many people are staying on the private land and not pulling their weight.Come join us and help out the cause.:D

RE: PA hunters doing their part
 

Ha............


I for one do not support the state "plan" that includes the massive amounts of HR, but I definately support AR. I think you already know that though.

I do support a form of managing a deer herd, however I do feel that PA's plan is jaded with other things other than the well being of the deer herd. The biggest thing I don't understand is why kill more deer because the "habitat won't support the current herd" when you could instead slightly cut the herd and improve the habitat? The amount of money that could be generated on state land by selectively cutting timber is probably easily in the 10's of millions of dollars..........and then it would create habitat that would support more deer than the current habitat and then they would have money to fund other herd management projects. I would think they would generate more $$$ from this than the $$$ they generate from increased permits and from the tree huggers.

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double post...........[:@]

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Yes, I know a good spot to start, If you live near Harrisburg, State game land 211 In Dauphin, Lebanon and Schylkill Counties. It's about 25 miles long and so over browsed you can see for a mile, Come and help thin them out. [8D]

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Good post rick.
No thanks lost horn,been there done that.The deer numbers in that area have been down for quite a while.If you check out the private land in some areas around the sgl you'll find some good regen.And the private land has more deer.

RE: PA hunters doing their part
 

Not me I'm hunting the nuclear plant properties

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Not much State forest nearby but we hunt National Forest. Still plenty of deer there too. Does that count?

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:D sounds like something i want to do, eat a deer with three eyes and 2 legs :D:D

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Hmmm do they have turkeys with extra drumsticks???

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I just got back from my woods, I think best in the woods, seen some deer.
I know they are rare some places.
While I was walking I was thinking about grouse hunting, and the miles I drive to find good bird cover.On state land you will walk alot of miles to find any bird cover.If you take that logic to deer hunting ,how many of you are hunting the same places your fathers took you when you were a kid,to camps ,farms or just behind your house.If you don't own the land, talk to the people that do, not everyone understands how useless a stand of soft maple is. If they hunt deer give them some help ,if their hunting is better yours will be too. If they burn wood help them cut it.make brush piles with the tops.Find the old apple trees & cut the trees shading them. a bag of 10-10-10 fertilizer will do wonders.It works the same as hunting a good grouse covert.All the birds are in a small area & so are the deer .You can make that place you hunt the one the deer like too. We are all going to live with fewer deer to hunt so why not make your place the best to hunt.

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I saw a deer with a leg growing out his backside once on a dump site.
Gives a new meaning to the term "foot up your ars".
I suppose national forest counts BT,we'll let you slide this time.:D

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This was a point I sort of brought up a while back about how the game commission is handling things. If you drive through state gameland areas you will notice most often that you can see for hundreds of yards up through the woods. Or, all you'll see is pine and hemlock overtaking the areas because what was cut was just the hardwood. In either scenerio, deer don't tend to spend a lot of time in these areas. Even though I hunt well managed private ground, I still single out the thicker areas where there is a lot of saplings, brush and so forth. These areas seem to hold more deer and is usually where I find the bigger bucks. Guess what the deer on game lands do? Move to areas more suitable to their needs.

There is not enough cutting of game lands to promote regeneration. Someone on here made a very good statement at one point saying that we have tree huggers trying to protect the old growth forest, which most likely encompasses a large amount of game lands. This is not doing the deer, hunters or timber industry economy any good. The deer don't have food or cover, the hunters don't see the deer because they moved to greener pastures and good trees that could be used for lumber are left to stand and rot to the ground rendering them useless.

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I was just joshing you about game land 211 you can't beat it for food and cover for deer. Who would of ever thaught these city slichers could have wiped out the deer that fast on 25 miles of land!!

lost horn

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I was hoping you were.LOL
Thought maybe I was missing something.
That gamelands kinda brings up my point of this thread.The PGC wants the herd reduced in areas like this but who's crazy enough to actually hunt it?I suppose as long as there's one deer left in a large area in PA there will always be folks willing to hunt it.
If the DCNR does these flyover counts on state forests only they're going to find out there are literally large areas void of deer.I've seen these areas first hand.