GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

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RE: GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

MURDER IS MURDER HOPE HE LEARNED HIS LESSON

RE: GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

The guy is a scumbag. I was on another site where the son of one of his victims talking about this case,[:'(][:'(]

RE: GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

People as stupid as Dallas don't learn any lesson, they're just that---stupid.

RE: GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

Read someones "sig line" a few minutes ago that fit this pretty well...

Ingnorance is curable....stupidity is forever.

This guy is just plain stupid and hopefully he won't be out for long. A cat doesn't change his spots and he will be right back out poaching etc I"m sure very soon. As a convicted felon though he can't possess a firearm and I'm curious did they take away his hunting privledges for life because this was a hunting related incident?

Although I can the headlines now "F&G Department Harrasses Reformed Killer"


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RE: GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

It's too bad they brought him in for trial. Read the book "Give a Boy a Gun" if you want to know what he is really like. A delusional POS in my book!

RE: GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

It is inconceivable that this dirt bag is out walking the streets again!

RE: GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

Whats inconceivable is that this is even being debated! Let me know when the guys he murdered get to stand back up and brush themselves off. Then we can debate it. Unbelieveable!

RE: GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

A complete travesty of justice. Who was on the jury? His relations???

RE: GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

Im not familiar with this guy, but why was he viewed as a folk hero for shooting 2 people that were there doing their job? I mean most folk heroes are fighting for injustices or rights of fellow americans this guy seemed like a plain ol poacher who got caught?

RE: GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

I believe the media viewed him at the time as a modern day Jerimiah Johnston, living off the land, with the bad ol' wardens trying to stop him from poaching a few animals. That, and the fact that his "buddy" swore the wardens drew their guns first.

RE: GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

Guity or Not, Come on.[:'(][:@]

RE: GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

Guilty or not isn't even the right question. More like why the h*ll is this guy out after serving only 22 years. I remember reading about him killing those wardens in Outdoor Life when I was pretty young. I'm pretty sure it mentioned that the larger of the two was quartered so he could handle disposing of the body more easy. I don't think the other body was ever found, but I may be wrong. How he could have only got a 30 year sentence is beyond me. JMO

RE: GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

You know, its been many years since I read about this as well, and I remember a few things, as it stuck to me. Wasnt the one officer named Conly Elms, or something like that? He left a family behind, as I recall. Also, the sh*thead Dallas played coward from the law, or escaped or something too, didnt he?

Im not for plea bargains or deals, unless the victims get to stand back up and not be dead.

RE: GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

Yes, he escaped from prison because he said the guards threatened to kill him. They apparently believed him because he served no additional time and even got out 7 years early for "good behavior".

RE: GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

the guy served his time and was released...just how many crack dealers,drive by shooters,etc. don't see 22 yrs of a 30 yr sentence??????? scumbag in town here killed 2 girls that owed him for crack cocain he was selling...shot them both then drove over them with his p/k truck. He was convitcted and only sentenced to 15-20 yrs...now he claims he was raped in prison and has gotten himself his own apartment...where's the justics in that????????

RE: GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

still trying to figure out what this has to do with the North East??????????????

RE: GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

Good point Doughboy....we should be beating some PA topic to death. It's a hunting related topic, and isn't that the point to the overall board?? If the poster lives in the NE, in my mind, that should be a good enough reason to post here. JMO!

RE: GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

I suppose you all don't know that Claude Dallas is from back east. He is a transplant and the talk is that he may end up back with his family. There is a member on this forum who is friends with Mrs. Elms, Connleys mother. Pouge, one of the victims of the incident was just as bad as Claude and had been harassing him for some time. The only reason that Connely was there is because he couldn't say no to Pouge. I am not making Claude to be a hero by any means. Connely is the one that got the raw deal. Pouge liked to throw himself around and Claude was the wrong one to throw it at. A friend of mine had a run in with Pouge down on the snake river. He tore their truck up and found nothing. He left them there to put their stuff back in order, and didn't treat them nice at all. My feelings are that if you through a match in a haystack, you will have one big fire on your hands. And that is exactly what happened. Unfortunatly Elms got the raw deal. Was Caude Dallas guilty I say 100% yes. The whole thing is a shame. It goes along the same lines as Randy Weaver and Ruby Ridge. There were alot of screw ups that led to tragedy. Good luck with him if he ends up near you.

RE: GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

That's correct Elkcrazy. I'm pretty sure that loser is from Winchester, VA. Therefore, any and all subsequent posts (as if there will be any) should be posted to the South forum, as that's where VA is blessed to be! (geographically speaking, and of course forum-related) Just messing. :D

RE: GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

I read the story and it looks like justice wasn't served in this case but we've all seen cases where it's not about being guilty or not, it's about who has the best trial lawyers and he must have had a good one.

RE: GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

West Virginia is where he was from according to the book "Give a Boy a Gun".

RE: GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

Just because a man has a badge and a gun doesn't automaticaly make him a good guy. Live and let live I say. You want to go and play with fire, don't cry about it when you get burned. Who started the trouble in this case..........exactly my point. The hell with em.

RE: GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

Moosehunter< you get a reach around in the shower from the guy?

RE: GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

Being in law enforcement I can tell you that there are bad people posing as police officers, people is people, catholic priest, president etc...
It is because of people like claude dallas and other scumbags who kill police officers that we are trained to be the authority figure and not MR. smiley. Different story if you're approaching someone you don't already know is a criminal, treat with respect and hopefully you get it in return. Was the dead officer a PR$%k? Maybe, but how many of you would pull a gun on an officer after he draws on you instead of putting your hands up and how many of you would make sure the officer is dead by putting a 22 through his head like a freakin possum? That final act is the clincher. There goes your self defense arguement in front of a REASONABLE jury. Next time I have to be a PR@#K maybe someone should put a bullet through my head?

RE: GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

Pouge was not the man to go after Claude. Pouge was even harrassing friends of mine before the incident and they are upstanding citizens. Yes Claude killed in cold blood and there is no excuse. Claude and Pouge had bad blood long before this happened. Pouge had a habit of sticking his nose where it didn't belong and intimidating people, even those who were living by the law. Don't get me wrong here because I am in no means defending Claude or saying that an officer shouldn't have been there to arrest Claude. But at the same time I will never defend Pouge either. Connely on the other hand got the bad deal. He was in fact a good officer and a good all around guy. He was just doing his duty. For Pouge this issue was personal as was with Claude, and both were ready to settle the score.

RE: GUILTY or NOT? Claude Dallas
 

What's the matter Charlie? You sound jealous.