RE: Amish crop damage slayings
 

Rem. I feel for you.............I've been dealing with the Amish for 15 years........I finally got them to understand what the word "posted" means. It took a lot of time, and threats, but I finally got them to understand!!!;)

What a lot of people don't understand, is that they are "slob" hunters! They get 10-20 guys, do drives, and kill anything they see.

I'm also quite sure they follow their own rules................they kill deer in the "off" season...........The sad part is, their just as happy to kill a button buck as they are a 12 point.

My best bet of getting a good buck is during archery. Not that many Amish bow hunt, and the ones that do have a little trouble with "scent" control.:D:D

RE: Amish crop damage slayings
 

Thanks alot all of you who have posted. After alot of sleepless nights & a few more phone calls i found out that over 180 deer were shot by these people over the fall red tag crop damage season. Im pretty pissed about it to say the least & im gonna spend the Christmas holiday getting my facts straight before going on with this matter. I really dont know what if anything i can do but at the very least i see a few cows takin any early departure from the morning feeding process if the PGC tells me that they are eligible for all the deer slaying that i've been told about. (provided all these stories are 100% correct)
Im the type of guy to drive right up in their barn & bust a cap in the head of the closest cow to the tailgate of the truck! I greew up with these people around us,,buyin up the farms when the locals had no money to keep goin, but i wont stand to see the deer herd take that kind of azzwhoop in one year! like i said before ,,it is nothin to see 30-50 deer a day (all different deer) & to only see 13 in 3 days just blows my mind. I really wanted the AR's to be a good thing even if it meant me goin without a shot for a few years,,i just love being there at home huntin with Dad & my brother,,but i think i would be just as at fault if i let this kinda thing go on without raising a stink. and to my knowledge,,,the PGC gives out the red tags to farmers who request them for crop damage & they do a study on how mant tags that farmer should recieve & then act accordingly,,,& i know my area (4d) cant loose that many deer in one season on one farm & strive to have a well managed herd

just my thoughts
Mike

RE: Amish crop damage slayings
 

Is there a limit for how many tags they can get for crop damage deer?

RE: Amish crop damage slayings
 

You've been away too long. Welcome to the wonderful world of Gary Alt's deer management program. Please understand, the PGC doesn't care how the deer are killed, just so they are.:( And if you saw 13 deer during season, consider yourself lucky.

RE: Amish crop damage slayings
 

my grandparents have a farm in new wilmington, pa and we as a family have been dealing with them (the amish) for years now. thye poach on a regular basis. from rabbits and turkeys to deer. it's flat out ignorance is what it is. i think that they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

a short, quick story.

two amish were turkey hunting on public land (this past fall) one of the men shot the other.....when authorities found them, they each had already shot 4 turkeys each. which for those of you who don't know pa laws.... you can shoot one in the spring (bearded birds only) and one in the fall (either sex), i haven't seen any updates as of late.

RE: Amish crop damage slayings
 

aumish need to buy license same as anybody.its the red tag areas your probably refering to these areas are out of control .people dont even begin to follow regulation in these areas It has becme wide open season pratically year round.doe or buck and all you want Im talking about PA.

RE: Amish crop damage slayings
 

season open all year round in PA?? maybe for those who like to poach. some amish (NOT ALL) have been known to try to weasel their way out of a lot of things, not only the regulations set by the PGC. from not having to pay road taxes to not letting health inspectors into their bakeries. maybe the other guys were talking about red tag areas, i'm not. plus, it all depends on what red tag areas your talking about. i'm not really sure what the difference between green tag and red tag areas are, but i've hunted green tag areas before and as far as i could tell, the population of deer was certainly not out of control. the green tag area i am referring to is a parcel of land owned by a business that grows all kinds of different plants. i hunted there for two days, after not seeing one deer i was thinking to myself "why is this green-tagged ??". the fact is that the amish don't like to follow "modern" law!!

RE: Amish crop damage slayings
 

I was not refering to the amount of deer I was reffering to the the hunting ethics that are aloud with no question aske .the game commission needs to do a better way of policing these areas.you hunt these areas and seen one deer .Didnt make you wonder why they would be aloud to get permit for deer damage area.

RE: Amish crop damage slayings
 

From what I understand the crop damage permits in Maryland
are given to a farmer only after an official comes out to review
the property and interview the farmer. The amount of permits
issued is based on parcel size, type of crops, etc... To receive
a buck crop damage permit you need to prove a buck is causing
the damage i.e. tree farm damaged by rubs. The interesting
part to the buck tag is when you fill it, the antlers must be sent
in to the official. From what I was told this practice is used to
prevent the obvious abuse that could happen with this type of
program. Received this info from the son-in-law of a farmer
in PG county.

Regarding the Amish... I don't deal with these folks at all due
to the fact I live no where near one of their communities. Bottom
line... different culture and way of life. In a situation like this where
they practice crop damage reduction through the method identified
above state DNR needs to step in and find the middle ground. Abuse
is abuse, we can bend for their way of life, but they need to work
within the "English" ways as well!

I hate it when a deer is killed by a vehicle and wastes on the side of
the road. To mass kill an animal and not properly use it is a disgrace.

RE: Amish crop damage slayings
 

The Amish I know in St Mary's County (Md) kill wildlife all year whenever the need arises, never have known them to purchase a hunting license as it is not needed (by law) to hunt thier own property. They will give you access to thier property but it is hardly worth the trouble as they might bust a deer with a gun while your in a tree bowhunting. They ride thier little horse drawn buggys right through the woods to get to the next farm and if the younger ones get a hold of some wiskey you better leave the woods quick.