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PA AR going BYE_BYE??????

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Old 12-19-2003 | 05:11 PM
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Sunday hunting won't happen the reason is the farmers who gave the land to the state to allow us to hunt ask for no hunting on sunday we have 1000's of acres of private land open to us as long as there is no sunday hunting if we get it we lose alot of hunting ground we have 4 farms here with a total of about 1000 acres alone that would close and be taken over by a club who wont let us hunt anyway. think hard about the land that you have local check the commision web site for deer damage areas those are only a few. i would like to hunt sunday to but not if it is going to take land from other hunters who have no place to hunt except that farm the only guys we would hurt are the guys like us that work 40 to 60 hours a week and only get 1/10th of the time they want to hunt. what we need to do is push to get more state land then we would be able to hunt sunday. when we have enough land to hunt. the ar is in place for another 3 years they wont change it to many guys like it. i love it look at the bucks in my yard. i haven't seen deer like this in years here i had 11 buck all but 4 where legal to shoot 1 was a small legal 6 here is a pic.

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Old 12-21-2003 | 09:23 AM
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Interesting thoughts CallMan because it seems like the only reason those who oppose Sunday hunting in the State Legislature have been able to come up with.

Let me see if I have this right. Some landowners are running what essentially amounts to a public welfare program and allowing others to hunt on their property. If the state allows landowners to make their own choice of hunting on Sundays or not, just like they can on any other day of the week, some of those running that public welfare program are threatening to quit donating.

Are you really saying that the rights of those welfare recipients that might lose a free place to hunt, outweigh the rights of property owners to make their own decision on what they can do on their own property?

Isn't that somewhat contradictory to the principles of Freedom?

Is the end result any different than if a group of property owners that allow public fishing or hiking or ATV riding threatened to close their property if the State didn't shut those activities down for everyone in the state one day a week?

If that wouldn't be fair for anglers and hikers and ATV riders, how is it fair for hunters?

Would you consider a fellow angler or hiker or ATV rider that supported such restrictions for those reasons to be pro or anti?
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Old 12-25-2003 | 09:44 AM
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Sunday hunting is much needed the state must get in the game on this. If the need one day a week for no hunting make it a wed. or tues. which would affect a few but not nearly the thousands that only have sundays off. I also like a Sat. start to the buck season and in the WMU's that can handle it a over the counter anterless permit bought with you're regular lic. They do need alot of timber management on the stateland's and parks for more deer and deer food. Most people I talk to that don't see alot of deer are gun hunters who hunt a couple of days a year and that's it they go to the same stand they killed a buck in 1980 and never try a different stand or area they just complain about no deer IMO that's their lack of scouting and prep work and some people don't have time but don't complain about no deer in the area I hunt cause they're there. The ANTLER RES. should stay everyone has seen and improvement. Dr. Alt went to a big deer processing house that does alot (750-1,000 a year) of deer and he said in years past 2.5 year old deer made up 15% of the bucks. This year 56% of the bucks at this processor were 2.5 year old deer with nice racks mostly 8pt. with 13" to 17" spreads wait till next year. This is just my opinion on the subject and if you do hunt hard and don't see deer in Pa. find another hunting area.
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Old 12-25-2003 | 10:56 AM
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COWBOYSFAN- what do you mean "let us hunt till dark"? do you guys have a quitting hour down there?. in NY it's sunset...
just curios,
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Old 12-25-2003 | 11:38 AM
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moose, its 1/2 before dark. sun set
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Old 12-26-2003 | 08:40 AM
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I'm on the PA GAme CCommission bulletin board and the list of things to be covered at the Jan. meetings did "not" include the Thanksgiving week hunting season and there won't be any changes to the antler restriction. Actually this will probably be the least amount of changes they have went for in years.
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Old 12-26-2003 | 08:40 AM
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Your going to see Sunday hunting implemented in a very slow procedure.....trust me.....it comes down to....the hell with farmers who are against it...they don't govern the Game Commission and a they don't support or finance the game lands and state forests which will be open to Sunday hunting. Why penalize hunters who hunt public land because some farmer is against it on his property....he'll simply not allow hunting on his property on Sunday.....


It's all about the $$$$$...to generate revenue...
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Old 12-26-2003 | 11:04 PM
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Rob said it all . If they want to be tight @$$es about it , then let them govern their personal property how they want, but public land should be able to be hunted 7 days a week in season.
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Old 12-27-2003 | 06:08 PM
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One more thing I thought of about changes with licenses. Why doesn't the Game Commission get with hoe the other states sell their licenses. I bow hunt so sell an Archery lic. with a buck tag and have an extra fee for a doe tag. Then sell a Reg. hunting license, or call it a rifle license in which it would have a buck tag and you would also be able to purchase a doe tag over the counter. Sell a seperate small game lic., a seperate turkey lic. and so on. This way a fellow would be able to hunt in gun season even if he got a buck or doe in bow season they would sell more lic. and make more money and I know alot of guys don't bow hunt cause they want to hunt with everyone in gun season. Most of the other states do it this way to sell more lic. and give more hunting opportunities to the working men and women. What do you guys think of doing it this way?
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