PA Doe application due
08-05-2014, 02:40 PM
#41
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Southampton Pa BUCKS CO
Posts: 2,492
Are you a new hunter or what? You sound like someone that watches a lot of deer videos. There is no hunting pressure because the herd was decimated in the Alt years (Probably before you were hunting). Deer do not just "spill over" from areas that still have large amounts of deer. It takes a long time for deer to come back in areas that were literally wiped out. I hunted places years back that had a line of guys every 50 yards on top, in the middle, and the bottom of mountains. Now you can walk all day and be lucky to see 4 hunters. No deer=no hunters. It is not unusual during bumper crop years for acorns to see piles of them rotting on the ground in april. The PAGC is finally trying to do the right thing. Around here they are starting to use controlled burns to improve habitat. Years back "Improving habitat" meant rapeing the forest of any good saw logs and planting bushes that choked out anything of value. Maybe they (PAGC) are finally headed in the right direction. Alt is gone from PA. Good riddance.
Hatchet Jack
08-08-2014, 09:30 AM
#42
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 103
Nope,I've been hunting for over 35 years and I don't watch phony hunting videos.I hunt the big woods of northcentral Pa and never hunted over or near a food plot either.First of all,if there's no pressure and sufficient food,it doesn't take long at all for deer to increase numbers.If there's no pressure and few deer,you most likley have a habitat problem.That's a fact.Second,healthy acorns don't rot,they sprout.If you're finding rotten acorns,they were most likely infected by a weavil and were rotten before the deer had a chance to eat them.It's a common problem and when you scout,you really should be picking up the acorns to see if they're edible.
08-08-2014, 09:38 AM
#43
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 103
You will never hear me complain about logging. BUT! The drilling going on in our GREAT STATE is a spike in my eye. Even tho its regenerating the good habitat that it destroyed. ITS A GIANT CLUSTER F*&^!! and money grab for the Harrisburg HACKS/GASMEN!!!!
Hatchet Jack
Hatchet Jack
08-08-2014, 10:50 AM
#44
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,358
Nope,I've been hunting for over 35 years and I don't watch phony hunting videos.I hunt the big woods of northcentral Pa and never hunted over or near a food plot either.First of all,if there's no pressure and sufficient food,it doesn't take long at all for deer to increase numbers.If there's no pressure and few deer,you most likley have a habitat problem.That's a fact.Second,healthy acorns don't rot,they sprout.If you're finding rotten acorns,they were most likely infected by a weavil and were rotten before the deer had a chance to eat them.It's a common problem and when you scout,you really should be picking up the acorns to see if they're edible.
I cut them open now
08-09-2014, 12:58 AM
#45
Typical Buck
Join Date: May 2010
Location: South East Pa.
Posts: 526
Acorns piled above leaves do not sprout, they lay their until they rot. That should say something for the decline in turkey in our area too. Chestnut oak are known for wormy nuts. The majority of the oaks where I used to hunt are white and red. I used to log when I was younger, so I don't need lessons from a know it all. I am guessing that you think the whole state is exactly the same terrain. It is not. Stop posting stupid statements and answer the question. Why are large segments of the state now dropping back on doe tags and dropping back to a 1 week doe season if your version of the deer herd is true? You actually think that a deer herd can not be shot out, even with good food and cover?
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08-09-2014, 04:44 AM
#46
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 103
Healthy acorns do not rot by spring.They sprout.If you find a rotten acorn in the spring,it most likely wasn't edible in the fall and that goes for both red and white acorns.The whole state is not the same terrain.The forest composition can change in a relatively short distance and the carrying capacity will change right along with it.Only about 40% of Pa's land mass is oak/hickory so the remaining 60% will have no acorns anyway.If there's little pressure and the deer herd isn't growing,you have a habitat issue,plain and simple.Adding more deer to poor habitat is the dumbest thing you can do.
The decrease in allocations and season length was against the biologists and foresters recommendations.It was done purely for political reasons by the BOC.
The decrease in allocations and season length was against the biologists and foresters recommendations.It was done purely for political reasons by the BOC.
08-10-2014, 04:35 PM
#47
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Southampton Pa BUCKS CO
Posts: 2,492
You do realize that the PGC doesn't own the gas rights on most of the state game lands.In many cases there's very little they can do to stop it and about the best they can do is negotiate surface disturbance.Also,a high percentage of the gas leases that the PGC did negotiate on the SGL's involved no drilling on the property.They negotiated the drilling to be done off the game lands but will get royalties because the drilling is going under them with nothing on the surface being disturbed.If you own land but don't own the gas rights,you have very little rights.The gas companies can come on to drill and there's very little you can do about it.
Hatchet Jack
08-11-2014, 04:33 PM
#50
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Southampton Pa BUCKS CO
Posts: 2,492
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