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Originally Posted by KonKata
(Post 4106901)
Prints have been found and documented. The game commission refuses to release any statements other than "there are no breeding populations".
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Bronco22000: I read your post, and sure enough I cut bobcat tracks a couple days later. I was hunting a mountain I have hunted over 40 years and it is the first I saw of them. I will give it the benefit of doubt on the mountain lion thing. I don't really care what biologists say. Those are the $%^holes that pretty much wiped out the PA deer herd. Until just a few years ago a lot of us were idiots because we thought deer could see colors. Now I am reading science has made a "New" discovery.
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Originally Posted by Gunplummer
(Post 4107671)
Bronco22000: I read your post, and sure enough I cut bobcat tracks a couple days later. I was hunting a mountain I have hunted over 40 years and it is the first I saw of them. I will give it the benefit of doubt on the mountain lion thing. I don't really care what biologists say. Those are the $%^holes that pretty much wiped out the PA deer herd. Until just a few years ago a lot of us were idiots because we thought deer could see colors. Now I am reading science has made a "New" discovery.
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Could not be any worse than the crap that biologists have been slinging at Joe Hunter for the last 10 years.
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Originally Posted by Gunplummer
(Post 4108057)
Could not be any worse than the crap that biologists have been slinging at Joe Hunter for the last 10 years.
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Originally Posted by Sylvan
(Post 4108121)
I agree, scientists don't know as much about game and game management as Joe Hunter. :)
License sales show it too with hunters becoming frustrated and not buying them. |
Some people used say there is no way that mountain lions or wolves are in Indiana and I was one of those people for years. Then one day out walking my Grandfathers farm with my Gramps he elbows me and nods toward the other side of the valley. I looked up and could not believe what I saw. Yes it was a mountain lion. I still thought this was just a fluke thing maybe someone had raised it and released it. At any rate even after seeing it I doubted that there were any others in the area or state. Well years later I read a statement from the DNR and I'll share the link.
http://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/files...nformation.pdf Now that statement was released around 2010. Now when you hear about a sighting its not that big of a deal. They are making a comeback and it is illegal to hunt them here so they will make a comeback as the apex preditors. |
Hunted in Southern Illinois 5 years ago and 1 of the guys in camp swore that he had a mountain lion working around his stand for 15 minutes one late afternoon.
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Originally Posted by bronko22000
(Post 4104689)
I just got around to reading my Dec 2013 edition of American Hunter magazine. There is an article in there titled "Predators at the Back Door". The article talks about grizzly and black bears, coyotes, and cougars. In this article there are maps of the current and historical ranges for each of these animals. Taking a look at the cougar's, the historical range was from the west coast to about the eastern edge of the rockies (maybe a bit farther east) and from the upper reaches of BC south all the way into South America. The current range now covers this area AND the entire rest of the continental U.S. and about 3/4 of Canada. Pretty much the same for the coyote.
I believe they are here in PA. I've just not been fortunate or unfortunate enough, depending on the circumstances, to see one for myself. we have deer everywere peoples back yards in the citie outer limits and there cant be a mountain lion in up state pa lol |
Originally Posted by bronko22000
(Post 4113285)
I sense a bit of sarcasm there. But look at what the biologists did to PA's deer herd. We hunters have been telling the PGC for years that they were issuing too many antlerless tags and reducing the population to critical levels. They are finally starting to believe us. They realize that they screwed up but will not admit it.
License sales show it too with hunters becoming frustrated and not buying them. |
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