I don't agree that there are more doe than buck in a natural setting. When it was a 3 day doe season in pa., it was probably close to 50/50. The herd is so screwed up now that in many places there are more buck than doe. I used to live in 5-C and that area is real screwed up. Where did the "Correct" doe to buck ratio come from? I don't beleive AR works unless the hunting area is restricted and the area's food supply is boosted. There were always big deer out there, it just did not show until Pa. opened the bow season all those extra weeks. The sad thing is you can walk the mountains around here and see rubs from years gone by, some on really big trees, and now you are lucky to see any at all. Pa. does not even have valid antler restrictions. There are so many people allowed to shoot anything I don't see why they even bother with them.

Oh I'm very much aware of it. When I went to get license had my property taxes paper work with me to prove that I was a/the landowner. Got ahold of my buddy who is an Encon officier who hunts our property said that the "State" was wrong by not allowing us to get permits.

Is that something that the person selling the license has to manually enter into the DECALS computer every year?
I think it should be stored on the computer then a simple check box once you display the proper paperwork. Sounds like the license clerk may have messed up.

I hunt in Sullivan County NY and the deer restrictions have worked great. After the heyday of the 70's and 80's when people shot at BROWN..the good bucks were far afew between. Since implementing Antler restrictions I see bucks frequently, and they are GETTING BIG ! REAL BIG ! better then even 10 yrs ago when spikeys were a shooter !
AR's work great...the problem ! local poachers all year long !

I have been hunting P.A. since they started the antler restriction. I see no bigger bucks taken off this farm than ever before. Where are these older bucks? I do not want to see antler restrictions in the areas I hunt in New York state. My opinion is. I pay a lot of money for my license each year. You want to kill bigger bucks, that is your right, you let the smaller ones go. I on the other hand want the meat. I to will let smaller bucks go, but I like the idea that I have a choice, and not a law saying I can't kill a smaller buck if I like. I don't care for the PA law, I have to let a lot of bucks go every year down there, I go for the meat on the farm I hunt. Like I said, there has been a law there for many years now, and I still don't see any bigger bucks now than I did before.

Antler Restrictions in New York
 

Hi 26drawny. In my area if you look somewhere on the Amish land out by the road, you will see a little shed with phone wires coming in. I have also been to one of their places getting some produce before and seen these Amish around here use a phone. My experience anyways. Not saying you aren't right about them not calling them in if they did get one, nuisance permit.