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Very disapointing
Just got word that the area he hunt in Hunterdon county NJ was hit bad with blue tongue. From what guys are saying there are thousands dead. Heard stories of litteraly 20 dear at a clip laying dead in streams and ponds. Great and I just paid for my lease too!
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Guess no one fron NJ on here? Just got back from the property and not one deer track and 5 carcasses. Talked to several other people and the area is desimated. Hunterdon county has the highest deer per square mile, hunter kill rates, and largest lisence sales out of all on NJ. Went on a local hunting sight and they are talking about gear, pictures from last year and food plots! Go figure?
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I live and hunt just across the river in PA and as yet I haven't seen any evidence of EHD in our area and I haven't heard of any reports of EHD from the guys I know that hunt NJ. I checked the NJ DEP website and there were no reports of EHD in NJ in 2011.
If you haven't done so already, it might be a good idea to report your findings to the DEP. |
Originally Posted by bluebird2
(Post 3837170)
I live and hunt just across the river in PA and as yet I haven't seen any evidence of EHD in our area and I haven't heard of any reports of EHD from the guys I know that hunt NJ. I checked the NJ DEP website and there were no reports of EHD in NJ in 2011.
If you haven't done so already, it might be a good idea to report your findings to the DEP. |
That's all a bunch of crap. I live in Hunterdon and belong to two different clubs with no mention. I live in these woods and haven't seen any thing unusual except for the normal road kill.
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Originally Posted by joedjr59
(Post 3837207)
That's all a bunch of crap. I live in Hunterdon and belong to two different clubs with no mention. I live in these woods and haven't seen any thing unusual except for the normal road kill.
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Ahhh here you go http://www.newjerseyhunter.com/article107973.htm
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Man that suxs...there's some great bucks in the area...I was once hunting on the river up that way and had a 160 class 8 pointer chasing a doe across the river...man that suxs...I hope it does'nt get to the Pa side....
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Originally Posted by HONKERS
(Post 3837570)
Man that suxs...there's some great bucks in the area...I was once hunting on the river up that way and had a 160 class 8 pointer chasing a doe across the river...man that suxs...I hope it does'nt get to the Pa side....
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This is just so reminiscent of when i was mule deer hunting in the epicenter of chronic wasting disease area in the Medicine Bow area of Wyoming and saw all those downer deer. Very sad to say the least when you see 170 class bucks with their tongues hanging out, back brushed fur and head hung low dying a slow death.
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Wow realy sucks , Hope it doesnt flow into NY ...
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WOW !! SORRY!!! Hpoe it stays out of PA and NY !!!
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Dude sorry to hear that my property in SE. OH. got hit hard in 2007, we still had deer dying from it in front of in gun season in Dec. We are still just getting back to normal.
It was the perfect storm, Terrrible drought and the first frost didnt happen until early Nov. Pike |
Originally Posted by bluebird2
(Post 3837170)
I live and hunt just across the river in PA and as yet I haven't seen any evidence of EHD in our area and I haven't heard of any reports of EHD from the guys I know that hunt NJ. I checked the NJ DEP website and there were no reports of EHD in NJ in 2011.
If you haven't done so already, it might be a good idea to report your findings to the DEP. Also deer die from Blue tongue (EHD) each and every year in PA., NJ., OH.,MD. and WV., its just that most years it isnt that many of them to mention or worry about. Pike |
My area got hit with blue tongue 4 years ago right before the hunting season. Killed probably 80% of the deer in a 5 square mile area near Middleway.
Truth be told, the deer herd was way to big in the area, as there used to be herds of 20 deer in my backyard, running through the neighborhood. There were still enough deer around the next year that I was able to harvest one in the woods behind my house, and the herd, through natural growth ad osmisis, has returned to a good healthy level. As much as it sucks, it seems blue tongue is natures way of saying, 'the deer herd is more than the land can handle'. This year may be a bust, but next year there will be good deer once again. |
Im in the Oldwick/Lebanon/Annandale region of Hunterdon county, just east of Round Valley Reservoir. PLanning on hunting my backyard....this is the first I've heard of blue tongue here, I've seen lots of deer grazing on farmland...and the little stinkers are stripping the lower leaves off my cherry trees standing on their hind legs. The Rockaway creek is clear....I've not seen a carcass around here so maybe i'm clear this season. I used to work down in Hopewell...tough luck down there with that outbreak. Hope it clears up soon....
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Originally Posted by J Pike
(Post 3841491)
Bluebird just be glad we got plenty of rain in the northeast and this outbreak didnt spread YET!!! Also pray that we get an early frost to limit the amount of deer being infected.
Also deer die from Blue tongue (EHD) each and every year in PA., NJ., OH.,MD. and WV., its just that most years it isnt that many of them to mention or worry about. Pike Personally, I think the 117,000 doe tags( 125 tags/forested SM.) allocated for 5C are a much greater threat to the future of our herd than EHD will ever be. Remember the PGC goal for 5C was only 6 DPSM and the only thing that is preventing that goal is posted ground ,safety zones and municipalities where no firearms hunting is permitted. |
I was just forwarded this from the president of one of the clubs I hunt. I was unaware of the problem.
http://www.state.nj.us/dep/newsrel/2011/11_0103.htm |
It's been confirmed by NJF&G, parts of Hunterdon, Mercer, Morris Counties have been hit
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Originally Posted by bluebird2
(Post 3842719)
Personally, I think the 117,000 doe tags( 125 tags/forested SM.) allocated for 5C are a much greater threat to the future of our herd than EHD will ever be. Remember the PGC goal for 5C was only 6 DPSM and the only thing that is preventing that goal is posted ground ,safety zones and municipalities where no firearms hunting is permitted.
I was just pointing out to you that EHD. kills deer in PA., NJ. and other bordering states every year. Pike |
I had no intention of casting doubt on the effects of EHD in NJ. I even suggested that he report his observation to the DEP since there was no reference to the current outbreak of EHD on the NJ DEP website.
I referenced the high antlerless allocations in 5C simply to point out that high antlerless harvests year after year can have a greater effect on the herd than sporadic outbreaks of EHD. |
Originally Posted by bluebird2
(Post 3847048)
I had no intention of casting doubt on the effects of EHD in NJ. I even suggested that he report his observation to the DEP since there was no reference to the current outbreak of EHD on the NJ DEP website.
I referenced the high antlerless allocations in 5C simply to point out that high antlerless harvests year after year can have a greater effect on the herd than sporadic outbreaks of EHD. |
Here is the link to the article on EHD in PA.
http://www.mcall.com/sports/outdoors...,6463707.story . Since the experts claim EHD is only transmitted by midges,it is surprising that the farmer lost so many deer while there was no significant reports of the loss of wild deer in the surrounding area. |
Originally Posted by bluebird2
(Post 3848621)
Here is the link to the article on EHD in PA.
http://www.mcall.com/sports/outdoors...,6463707.story . Since the experts claim EHD is only transmitted by midges,it is surprising that the farmer lost so many deer while there was no significant reports of the loss of wild deer in the surrounding area. |
But didn't the experts say that EHD isn't transmitted from deer to deer and that it was only transmitted by the midges? If that were true there should have been significant impacts in other areas of 5C and 5D with high deer densities.
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Its official!
Reports from my property are, no deer, no deer and no deer. A couple of doe pics in 2 weeks. No real sign or prints on our property in 2 weeks!! Looks like I'm hunting somewhere else this year.
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Originally Posted by bluebird2
(Post 3849958)
But didn't the experts say that EHD isn't transmitted from deer to deer and that it was only transmitted by the midges? If that were true there should have been significant impacts in other areas of 5C and 5D with high deer densities.
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We got hit pretty hard with it in Salem county too, some areas wiped out. I have several cameras running with little to no activity.
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Don't worry, Obama care will take care of it.
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