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BOWHUNTERCOP 11-16-2010 12:40 PM

#2 in the WORLD and a new PA State Record Black Bear
 
http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1356135

Look at the size of this beast !!!!!!

Congrats to the lucky hunter !!!!!

Pro-Line 11-16-2010 01:59 PM

My god...what a hoss.

NJheadhunter71 11-16-2010 06:22 PM

I still can't figure out why all these guys from PA and NJ go out of state to hunt blackies? PA has some HUGE bears. I mounted one 4 years ago that went 625. Get ready for Jersey's season cause its gonna be a good one.

Bow-4-It 11-17-2010 03:02 AM

WOW! And he was taken in the Poconos.

PALongspur 11-17-2010 03:11 AM

That's impressive but I sure hope they got some better field photos than that.....

BarnesX.308 11-17-2010 08:48 AM


still can't figure out why all these guys from PA and NJ go out of state to hunt blackies?
Because other states have both spring and fall seasons and they hunt bait and/or dogs. PA has a lot of bears and a lot of big bears. But the success rates are still only about 3%.

twildasin 11-17-2010 12:44 PM

Good god!!!

BarnesX.308 11-17-2010 01:30 PM

Here's a picture.



unbridled 11-17-2010 01:37 PM

Holy cow! That is huge.

Windwalker7 11-17-2010 06:23 PM

The controversy is all ready starting about this bear. On another site.

Apparently there are several questions about the kill.

There was an old man that fed the bear for 16 years after its mother was killed by a car,

There are pictures of the old man hugging the bear on that other site. One of the party involved is there to digging himself into a hole.

The PGC is investigating it.

I guess everyone in the area knew about the tame bear and it seems the group of hunter that killed him may have known that also.

I think there are also some questions about safety zones.

I'm not sure what is heresay and what is fact but from what I've read, the story is starting to stink. It may make all hunters look bad in the end.

Just knowing that this bear has been fed by an old man for 16 years and then shot by someone taking advantage of it being tame, sickens me.

Windwalker7 11-17-2010 06:46 PM

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The bear even had a name, they called him Bozo

WestVirginiaBrent 11-17-2010 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by Windwalker7 (Post 3724172)
The controversy is all ready starting about this bear. On another site.

Apparently there are several questions about the kill.

There was an old man that fed the bear for 16 years after its mother was killed by a car,

There are pictures of the old man hugging the bear on that other site. One of the party involved is there to digging himself into a hole.

The PGC is investigating it.

I guess everyone in the area knew about the tame bear and it seems the group of hunter that killed him may have known that also.

I think there are also some questions about safety zones.

I'm not sure what is heresay and what is fact but from what I've read, the story is starting to stink. It may make all hunters look bad in the end.

Just knowing that this bear has been fed by an old man for 16 years and then shot by someone taking advantage of it being tame, sickens me.


Well, I hope they get what's coming to them. We had a similar incident in WV about 10 years ago. They supposedly got a world record bear out of Dolly Sods, but the taxidermist noticed it's pads were completely smooth. Come to find out they raised the bear in an enclosure and then killed it when it hit it's max size. :(

pats102862 11-18-2010 03:18 AM

Nice white v in the front also. IMHO there is no such thing as a tame bear running around in the wild or in captivity for that matter. A bear that size not afraid of humans running around a populated place as the poconos is a recipe for disaster. I'am not condoning taking the low road to harvesting that bear but sooner or later he would have been a problem, a big problem.

Bionicrooster 11-18-2010 05:34 AM

I agree pats that bear was going to be a problem one way or the other. But now it appears as though it may be a black eye for sportsman the way it was killed. For instace the old man reportedly fed the bear twinkies, and the story goes that the hunter was eating twinkies and drinking soda and the bear ran over and splashed blood on them after the shot....

Its a shame, I was and still am hoping it all turns out to be on the up and up. He is a true giant of a bear.

DougE 11-18-2010 06:00 AM

Friggin pathetic bunch of hunters.

GPMD 11-18-2010 08:58 AM

wow. the archerytalk link is down but I found this one http://bullcreekblog.blogspot.com/20...aken-with.html

I would LOVE to believe this is real as I hunted up that way for 10 years before moving and have family in that area. I hope the rumors arent true but in this day, I guess the odds are in fact that they are

GPMD 11-18-2010 08:59 AM

Oh, and 9 shots with a crossbow?!?!?!?! What the hell! I have a hard time hearing that and not getting pissed

sproulman 11-18-2010 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by Windwalker7 (Post 3724172)
The controversy is all ready starting about this bear. On another site.

Apparently there are several questions about the kill.

There was an old man that fed the bear for 16 years after its mother was killed by a car,

There are pictures of the old man hugging the bear on that other site. One of the party involved is there to digging himself into a hole.

The PGC is investigating it.

I guess everyone in the area knew about the tame bear and it seems the group of hunter that killed him may have known that also.

I think there are also some questions about safety zones.

I'm not sure what is heresay and what is fact but from what I've read, the story is starting to stink. It may make all hunters look bad in the end.

Just knowing that this bear has been fed by an old man for 16 years and then shot by someone taking advantage of it being tame, sickens me.


as you said. this was bear that was almost like a pet even tho it was not in cage and roamed around area.yes he was there for 17 years .he would sleep in yards and play in swimming pools in area .his mother was in car wreck and BOZO liver near LEROYS HOME.


yes ,you could hug him,LEROY did many times.
was this ethical hunt and kill. NO WAY .was it illegal to kill a bear that was tame ?i dont think so unless it was baited or was in safety zone etc..
so this kill the hunter should not be proud. also shooting 7 or more arrows in bear, thats a disgrace and shows type of hunters that were shooting at BOZO.

i have bear in my yard as we speak. he is very tame. i would not ever think of shooting him.but some would and feel great.
this is what happened in this situation.

this bear was well known in area.he used to sleep 20 yds off road upside down ,feet in air snoring in shade on hot day.he would get up on his hind legs and wave at cars going by while he rubbed his back on a pole.
so that is great kill to be recorded in history.
TAME RECORD BEAR SHOT IN PA.

sproulman 11-18-2010 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by Bionicrooster (Post 3724348)
I agree pats that bear was going to be a problem one way or the other. But now it appears as though it may be a black eye for sportsman the way it was killed. For instace the old man reportedly fed the bear twinkies, and the story goes that the hunter was eating twinkies and drinking soda and the bear ran over and splashed blood on them after the shot....

Its a shame, I was and still am hoping it all turns out to be on the up and up. He is a true giant of a bear.

THAT twinkie/soda THING IS VERY STRANGE?

WestVirginiaBrent 11-18-2010 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by sproulman (Post 3724758)
as you said. this was bear that was almost like a pet even tho it was not in cage and roamed around area.yes he was there for 17 years .he would sleep in yards and play in swimming pools in area .his mother was in car wreck and BOZO liver near LEROYS HOME.


yes ,you could hug him,LEROY did many times.
was this ethical hunt and kill. NO WAY .was it illegal to kill a bear that was tame ?i dont think so unless it was baited or was in safety zone etc..
so this kill the hunter should not be proud. also shooting 7 or more arrows in bear, thats a disgrace and shows type of hunters that were shooting at BOZO.

i have bear in my yard as we speak. he is very tame. i would not ever think of shooting him.but some would and feel great.
this is what happened in this situation.

this bear was well known in area.he used to sleep 20 yds off road upside down ,feet in air snoring in shade on hot day.he would get up on his hind legs and wave at cars going by while he rubbed his back on a pole.
so that is great kill to be recorded in history.
TAME RECORD BEAR SHOT IN PA.

In my mind, hunting ethics > hunting laws

If I can't feel good or be honest about the hunt and the harvest, then I don't want the trophy, it defeats the purpose. But then again I am out there for the hunt, the battle of wits and tactics. Sadly, some people will never even understand that aspect of hunting. :(

Bow-4-It 11-19-2010 03:59 AM

I honestly don't think that the PGC will do anything to this guy, unless ofcourse it was shot in a safety zone or baited in as sproulman said. Afterall, the bear was in the wild which makes it fair game. However, that does not make it right nor ethical to shoot the bruin if the hunter knew the history of that particular animal. I also believe that this kill should not be entered into the record books given the background of this bear.

sproulman 11-19-2010 05:04 AM


Originally Posted by Bow-4-It (Post 3724922)
I honestly don't think that the PGC will do anything to this guy, unless ofcourse it was shot in a safety zone or baited in as sproulman said. Afterall, the bear was in the wild which makes it fair game. However, that does not make it right nor ethical to shoot the bruin if the hunter knew the history of that particular animal. I also believe that this kill should not be entered into the record books given the background of this bear.

bloody twinkie and soda and LOWERING his sugar is disturbing.with the 50yard rule now for ARCHERY a bear can be real close to home too and harvested.
would i have done it,NO but i see people like this all time.some shot 37 pd cubs also and are very proud.:mad:

GPMD 11-19-2010 08:52 AM

There is no defending 9 shots with the bow by 3 hunters in my mind. I have a vision of the bear in a tree with the guys just winging arrows into it. Info still sounds sketchy, did the hunter know the bears history? If he didn't or if he just knew of a big bear roaming around, I see no problem taking the bear legally on public hunting grounds. It kills me to try and defend him at all but thats the only argument I can make. If my neighbors were feeding a huge buck, and I didn't know they were feeding it, all i would know is there was a monster frequenting the area. I'm sure Im not the only one who would set up on public land within the vicinity in hopes it walked by. Now if i knew it was a buck that was tame and hand fed and petted, then no way in heck could i hunt it. Just my 2 cents, hopefully the guy was oblivious to how tame it really was

sproulman 11-19-2010 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by GPMD (Post 3725121)
There is no defending 9 shots with the bow by 3 hunters in my mind. I have a vision of the bear in a tree with the guys just winging arrows into it. Info still sounds sketchy, did the hunter know the bears history? If he didn't or if he just knew of a big bear roaming around, I see no problem taking the bear legally on public hunting grounds. It kills me to try and defend him at all but thats the only argument I can make. If my neighbors were feeding a huge buck, and I didn't know they were feeding it, all i would know is there was a monster frequenting the area. I'm sure Im not the only one who would set up on public land within the vicinity in hopes it walked by. Now if i knew it was a buck that was tame and hand fed and petted, then no way in heck could i hunt it. Just my 2 cents, hopefully the guy was oblivious to how tame it really was

yes, hunters knew bears history.BOZO also loved TWINKIES AND SODA.

WillPA 11-19-2010 10:05 AM

Trophy is in the eye of the beholder.

downtown 11-20-2010 05:23 AM

http://thedailyreview.com/news/875-p...n-pa-1.1066449

Here is an artical written in our local paper about this bear

hillbillyhunter1 11-20-2010 09:22 AM

I really can't say I blame the hunters (especially after I read that newspaper article).

Unless there were some extinuating circumstance, that bear probably should have been returned to the wild (perhaps re-located) or at least harassed from human contact long ago.

sproulman 11-22-2010 07:11 PM

the bears friend LEROY was on tv today.he is sick about it.
the hunters said,WE DID NOT KNOW THE BEAR WAS TAME OR IT WAS LEROYS FRIEND.
well,thats lie.1 said they knew it and admitted they were hunting BOZO for 5 yrs .
.

funny, hunter needed a twinkie/soda to hunt with do to his dieabetic problem.
THATS GOOD ONE!:eek2:

PAThwacker 11-23-2010 06:41 AM

The bear was fed left overs from a local restaraunt, knocked on the door for ice cream, and was hand fed doughnuts by Leroy. I disagree with the PGC's rule on allowing archery hunting them 50 yards from dumpsters, bird feeders, or doughnut shops. I'm also against good ole boy Leroy, USDA inspected food establishment "Petrizzo's", and others that were feeding this bruin for the past 17 years.

PAThwacker 11-23-2010 06:46 AM

Today's article in the pocono record is bragging about the potential values of the bear.

Windwalker7 11-23-2010 12:37 PM

Does this mean I can stick a bird feeder in the woods and hunt by it next year?

sproulman 11-23-2010 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by Windwalker7 (Post 3727599)
Does this mean I can stick a bird feeder in the woods and hunt by it next year?

only if it has TWINKIE dispenser .

Shrapnel 11-23-2010 04:23 PM

Big deal, a hand fed bear, check out this pig of a Prairie Dog, Now that's something worth posting...

pats102862 11-23-2010 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by Shrapnel (Post 3727762)
Big deal, a hand fed bear, check out this pig of a Prairie Dog, Now that's something worth posting...


Did it rank # 2 in the world?

doman 11-23-2010 08:18 PM

I don't know the true story here but if true the real bozo's are Leroy and the people who fed him, im surprised the bear wasn't killed sooner,THe hunters are Human after all. and find it hard to believe the bear was shot multiple times Tame or not a bear isn't gonna just sit there and let you take multiple shots. would love to read the PGC report on the Kill.

aldo88 11-24-2010 06:47 PM

Im not justifying nothing here but could you imagine if a 5 year old had a twinkie and that bear could smell it. Not knowing the bear was tame, the child would freak out and the bear wouldnt know it was doing anything wrong. Does it panic if the child screams? The bear should have been tranquilized and put in a zoo of some sort.

sproulman 11-24-2010 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by doman (Post 3727900)
I don't know the true story here but if true the real bozo's are Leroy and the people who fed him, im surprised the bear wasn't killed sooner,THe hunters are Human after all. and find it hard to believe the bear was shot multiple times Tame or not a bear isn't gonna just sit there and let you take multiple shots. would love to read the PGC report on the Kill.

BOZO was shot over 7 times with crossbows as 3 hunters loaded and shot.
kid said as BOZO went by the blood came out the arrow holes and got on his uncles TWINKIES and SODA as his uncle needed these for his high sugar while he was involved with shooting hunting BOZO. :eek2:

leroy kept bozo on his property but PGC said to stop feeding this great bear in oct 2010,so bozo wandered off the property.
kid said they have been trying to get BOZO FOR OVER 5 YEARS.
BOZO was at petruzzios restaurant night before he was killed.BOZO knocked on back door and his friends gave him supper and good rub down on his back.
he was killed not far from this restaurant in state park.....

my problem is these so called hunters knew this was a tame bear and were hunting it for years.its like i have a buck in my yard as we speak. its 8 point.i dont hunt it and its 3 years old.

everyone knows its here and they call this buck,OLE MOSSY HORN.does anyone hunt it, NO,they know it is used to us and we all like to see it.

BUT ALREADY I FOUND 1 CROSSBOW ARROW IN MY YARD AS OF THIS WEEK.:mad:

some will kill anything and easier the better.
these so called hunters are not hunters in my book.

sproulman 11-24-2010 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by aldo88 (Post 3728458)
Im not justifying nothing here but could you imagine if a 5 year old had a twinkie and that bear could smell it. Not knowing the bear was tame, the child would freak out and the bear wouldnt know it was doing anything wrong. Does it panic if the child screams? The bear should have been tranquilized and put in a zoo of some sort.

any parent that would let a 5 yr old near any bear is nut.that is why a bear like this takes it right on nose.
stupid parents have been reason for many animal deaths.

BOZO never harmed anyone.

could he, YES and so could my lab toby also .

pats102862 11-25-2010 03:59 AM


Originally Posted by sproulman (Post 3728487)

BOZO never harmed anyone.

could he, YES and so could my lab toby also .

Toby doesn't go 800lbs. and is a wild animal taking advantage of human food source. If bozo was a 150lb. bear no one would be even talking about it.

aldo88 11-25-2010 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by sproulman (Post 3728487)
any parent that would let a 5 yr old near any bear is nut.that is why a bear like this takes it right on nose.
stupid parents have been reason for many animal deaths.

BOZO never harmed anyone.

could he, YES and so could my lab toby also .


So parents shouldnt take their kids to Petruzzis? You do know that if a bear comes around into the public eye, people are going to gather and look at it? Bears do have a keen sense of smell. The bear is used to smelling twinkies, if for some chance this bear is close to the public and people gather around and lets say an out of stater doesnt know the history of this bear and they are snacking as they are watching it. What do you do when it walks towards you? Like I said, It should have been put either in a zoo or a wildlife habitat for all to enjoy........safely.

Also just for the record, if your dog does happen to attack some one and God forbid it be a child, it would have to be quarantined and possibly put down.


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