NY gun owner petition.
 

Hi folks,please take the time to go to NY Senator Joe Griffos' site and sign the petition he has to help protect our gun rights.Get your friends to do the same.
Thanks!
http://www.nysenate.gov/senator/joseph-griffo

SOB's are at it again!

I submitted my info:rock: I love this state, but i wish we could get rid of all the damn liberals.:s6:

Hu, I'm a liberal and a gun owner. What did I ever do to you? Keep your politics to yourself please. Why would a true liberal be against any personal rights? They wouldn't.

Bernie, thanks for the heads up but I din not find the petition. http://www.nysenate.gov/press-release/anti-gun-agenda

"HU" the topic is about liberal politicians infringing on our gun rights, mr "liberal gun owner", my political veiws are relevant. Do tell though, you being a liberal, you must have voted for obama, kerry, gore, and slick willy(assuming youre old enough), all democrats liberals, w/ anti gun agendas, yet you call yourself a gun owner. do you not support the right to own your own property? why would you sign the petition anyway? its the politician you help elect, that are doing this. sounds kinda foolish IMO.

" what did liberals do to you" Hmm lets see shall we?

because of NY liberals and the politicians they elect...

-I could not buy an inexpensive CAR A2 AR15 because liberal demoicrats say the bayonet lug, flash hider and collapsible stock are not legal so I had to search around for a more expensive modified AR15.
-I must bother 4 fellow county residents who are not related to me or to each other to go to a notary and sign my pistol permit application. then pay 107$ for the right to have the county,feds and judge take up to 1 year to give me a yah or nay to buy a handgun that I still have to submit to a NICS check to buy anyway!!!!!!!
-I have to put a stupid trigger lock on every gun I trasport to and from the range or my hunting spot.
- I can no longer buy guns or pistol ammo at walmart
-If I want to buy hi cap magazine they have to be made before 1994?????
-If some murderous hoodlum kicks in my door and bum rushs me and my family I am legally obligated to run out the back door instead of defeding my family and property w/ my 12ga!
-100$ for a NYS resident hunting lic.!!!!!
-now they want to put serial #s on the ammo!!!!!


on non gun related notes:
-250$ a pop to have a child out of wedlock!
-10K a year in prop taxes for a 1/4 acre and a 1200sf house in the boonies!
-high gas taxes (and prices)
-high healthcare taxes and premiums
-juice and soda taxes guntaxes taxes taxes taxes





List goes on and on and on.... GD NY liberals suck!!!!!

If you must know, son, I am a moderate and have split my ballet many times. What makes you think a liberal is a democrat? The current definitions of conservative and liberal are all f*%$ed up. There are no perfect parties or candidates. Both parties raise taxes both parties erode our privacy and rights. That is why the Bill of Rights is there and so very important.

Liberals as a group are just a big a group of hypocrites as conservatives and it is tearing the country apart.

Don’t blame anyone, vote, defend the constitution and support your fellow Americans. We are stronger together no need to fight from within.

Funny how it's the liberal nanny state programs that drive up the costs on so many things. By the way the Constitution and Bill of Rights limit what the Government can and can't do, but politicians from both parties have been using them to wipe their butts with and trampling on our rights.

Im not your son liberal, now you wanna debate, or you wanna talk down to me?. which is it, liberal or moderate? youre already backpeddaling, and were just getting started. of course they are, obama liberal/democrat, pelosi liberal /democrat, barny frank liberal /democrat, shumer liberal/ democrat, and on and on, see the pattern??? im not impressed w/ flip flopping moderates or independants either, just a bunch of liberals who pretend to have morals. there is no grey area to me ,especially on gun rights, left is liberal ,the category you put yourself in ,right is conservative thats where I stand. bush did not raise taxes he cut taxes ,where do you think people have less taxes and more liberties, conservative states like texas, or moronic liberal ones like NY? you think obama cares about the bill of rights? all liberals care about is big govt control and the redistribution of wealth. oh I bet you didnt vote for him either huh?:s13: wake up, obama hates sportsman and gun owners, and YOU mr liberal gun owner, as you call yourself, put him there, thanks!

again YOU called yourself a liberal, not my words, yours.

sorry, but if liberals didnt vote for obama, mcain, although no bargain ,would be president and the world would be a much better place from where Im standing, especially for gun owners, and w/ out NY liberals, schumer, gillibrand and paterson would not be in office, and NY would be a much better place for sure. so of course I blame liberals.

Is that trigger lock law a statewide thing?

The two anti gun bills that hurt us the most are the Brady Bill and Asault Wepons Ban.
Bradey was a republican and the vote shows a very mixed with both democrats and republicans. The Asault Wepons Ban (done under Clinton) has done nothing to change violent crime says the congressional report but Republicans alone wanted to extend the ban

In 1989, following the infamous Stockton, California shooting in which an assault weapon was used to kill 5 children and injure 29 others, President George H.W. Bush banned certain imported assault weapons and this led to the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban

The republican icon Ronald Regan supported the Brady Bill http://www.nytimes.com/1991/03/29/op...l?pagewanted=1

****I am not republican bashing just pointing out no one party is 100% pro or anti gun.


Both side are to blame, watch out for those “conservatives” too.

Assault Weapons Ban 2008 bill
H.R. 6257 was introduced by Mark Kirk [R Ill.-10] on June 12, 2008 and sought to re-instate the Assault Weapons Ban for a period of ten years, as well as to expand the list of banned weapons. The bill was also referred to the House Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security on 7/28/08. It had four co-sponsors (as of November 5, 2008) supporting it:
• Rep Castle, Michael N. - [R Del.-1] - 6/12/2008
• Rep Ferguson, Mike - [R N.J.-7] - 6/12/2008
• Rep Ros-Lehtinen, Ileana - [R Fla.-18] - 6/18/2008
• Rep Shays, Christopher - [R Conn.-4] - 6/12/2008

Here is the voting on the Brady Bill

XML U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 103rd Congress - 1st Session
as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate
Vote Summary
Question: On Passage of the Bill (H.R. 1025, as amended, passage )
Vote Number: 394 Vote Date: November 20, 1993, 07:09 PM
Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Bill Passed
Measure Number: H.R. 1025 (Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act Federal Firearms License Reform Act of 1993 )

Measure Title: A bill to provide for a waiting period before the purchase of a handgun, and for the establishment of a national instant criminal background check system to be contacted by firearms dealers before the transfer of any firearm.
Vote Counts: YEAs 63
NAYs 36
Not Voting 1
Vote Summary
By Senator Name
By Vote Position
By Home State


Alphabetical by Senator Name
Akaka (D-HI), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Bennett (R-UT), Nay
Biden (D-DE), Yea
Bingaman (D-NM), Yea
Bond (R-MO), Yea
Boren (D-OK), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Yea
Bradley (D-NJ), Yea
Breaux (D-LA), Nay
Brown (R-CO), Nay
Bryan (D-NV), Nay
Bumpers (D-AR), Yea
Burns (R-MT), Nay
Byrd (D-WV), Yea
Campbell (D-CO), Nay
Chafee (R-RI), Yea
Coats (R-IN), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Nay
Cohen (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Coverdell (R-GA), Nay
Craig (R-ID), Nay
D'Amato (R-NY), Nay
Danforth (R-MO), Yea
Daschle (D-SD), Yea
DeConcini (D-AZ), Yea
Dodd (D-CT), Yea
Dole (R-KS), Nay
Domenici (R-NM), Nay
Dorgan (D-ND), Not Voting
Durenberger (R-MN), Yea
Exon (D-NE), Yea
Faircloth (R-NC), Nay Feingold (D-WI), Yea
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Ford (D-KY), Yea
Glenn (D-OH), Yea
Gorton (R-WA), Yea
Graham (D-FL), Yea
Gramm (R-TX), Nay
Grassley (R-IA), Nay
Gregg (R-NH), Nay
Harkin (D-IA), Yea
Hatch (R-UT), Nay
Hatfield (R-OR), Yea
Heflin (D-AL), Nay
Helms (R-NC), Nay
Hollings (D-SC), Nay
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Jeffords (R-VT), Yea
Johnston (D-LA), Nay
Kassebaum (R-KS), Yea
Kempthorne (R-ID), Nay
Kennedy (D-MA), Yea
Kerrey (D-NE), Yea
Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
Leahy (D-VT), Nay
Levin (D-MI), Yea
Lieberman (D-CT), Yea
Lott (R-MS), Nay
Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Mack (R-FL), Nay
Mathews (D-TN), Yea
McCain (R-AZ), Nay McConnell (R-KY), Nay
Metzenbaum (D-OH), Yea
Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Mitchell (D-ME), Yea
Moseley-Braun (D-IL), Yea
Moynihan (D-NY), Yea
Murkowski (R-AK), Nay
Murray (D-WA), Yea
Nickles (R-OK), Nay
Nunn (D-GA), Yea
Packwood (R-OR), Yea
Pell (D-RI), Yea
Pressler (R-SD), Nay
Pryor (D-AR), Yea
Reid (D-NV), Yea
Riegle (D-MI), Yea
Robb (D-VA), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Roth (R-DE), Yea
Sarbanes (D-MD), Yea
Sasser (D-TN), Yea
Shelby (D-AL), Nay
Simon (D-IL), Yea
Simpson (R-WY), Nay
Smith (R-NH), Nay
Specter (R-PA), Nay
Stevens (R-AK), Nay
Thurmond (R-SC), Yea
Wallop (R-WY), Nay
Warner (R-VA), Yea
Wellstone (D-MN), Yea
Wofford (D-PA), Yea
Vote Summary
By Senator Name
By Vote Position
By Home State


Grouped By Vote Position
YEAs ---63
Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Bond (R-MO)
Boren (D-OK)
Boxer (D-CA)
Bradley (D-NJ)
Bumpers (D-AR)
Byrd (D-WV)
Chafee (R-RI)
Coats (R-IN)
Cohen (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Danforth (R-MO)
Daschle (D-SD)
DeConcini (D-AZ)
Dodd (D-CT)
Durenberger (R-MN)
Exon (D-NE)
Feingold (D-WI) Feinstein (D-CA)
Ford (D-KY)
Glenn (D-OH)
Gorton (R-WA)
Graham (D-FL)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hatfield (R-OR)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (R-VT)
Kassebaum (R-KS)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerrey (D-NE)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lugar (R-IN)
Mathews (D-TN)
Metzenbaum (D-OH) Mikulski (D-MD)
Mitchell (D-ME)
Moseley-Braun (D-IL)
Moynihan (D-NY)
Murray (D-WA)
Nunn (D-GA)
Packwood (R-OR)
Pell (D-RI)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reid (D-NV)
Riegle (D-MI)
Robb (D-VA)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Roth (R-DE)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Sasser (D-TN)
Simon (D-IL)
Thurmond (R-SC)
Warner (R-VA)
Wellstone (D-MN)
Wofford (D-PA)
NAYs ---36
Bennett (R-UT)
Breaux (D-LA)
Brown (R-CO)
Bryan (D-NV)
Burns (R-MT)
Campbell (D-CO)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coverdell (R-GA)
Craig (R-ID)
D'Amato (R-NY)
Dole (R-KS)
Domenici (R-NM) Faircloth (R-NC)
Gramm (R-TX)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT)
Heflin (D-AL)
Helms (R-NC)
Hollings (D-SC)
Johnston (D-LA)
Kempthorne (R-ID)
Leahy (D-VT)
Lott (R-MS) Mack (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nickles (R-OK)
Pressler (R-SD)
Shelby (D-AL)
Simpson (R-WY)
Smith (R-NH)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Wallop (R-WY)
Not Voting - 1
Dorgan (D-ND)
Vote Summary
By Senator Name
By Vote Position
By Home State


Grouped by Home State
Alabama: Heflin (D-AL), Nay Shelby (D-AL), Nay
Alaska: Murkowski (R-AK), Nay Stevens (R-AK), Nay
Arizona: DeConcini (D-AZ), Yea McCain (R-AZ), Nay
Arkansas: Bumpers (D-AR), Yea Pryor (D-AR), Yea
California: Boxer (D-CA), Yea Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Colorado: Brown (R-CO), Nay Campbell (D-CO), Nay
Connecticut: Dodd (D-CT), Yea Lieberman (D-CT), Yea
Delaware: Biden (D-DE), Yea Roth (R-DE), Yea
Florida: Graham (D-FL), Yea Mack (R-FL), Nay
Georgia: Coverdell (R-GA), Nay Nunn (D-GA), Yea
Hawaii: Akaka (D-HI), Yea Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Idaho: Craig (R-ID), Nay Kempthorne (R-ID), Nay
Illinois: Moseley-Braun (D-IL), Yea Simon (D-IL), Yea
Indiana: Coats (R-IN), Yea Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Iowa: Grassley (R-IA), Nay Harkin (D-IA), Yea
Kansas: Dole (R-KS), Nay Kassebaum (R-KS), Yea
Kentucky: Ford (D-KY), Yea McConnell (R-KY), Nay
Louisiana: Breaux (D-LA), Nay Johnston (D-LA), Nay
Maine: Cohen (R-ME), Yea Mitchell (D-ME), Yea
Maryland: Mikulski (D-MD), Yea Sarbanes (D-MD), Yea
Massachusetts: Kennedy (D-MA), Yea Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Michigan: Levin (D-MI), Yea Riegle (D-MI), Yea
Minnesota: Durenberger (R-MN), Yea Wellstone (D-MN), Yea
Mississippi: Cochran (R-MS), Nay Lott (R-MS), Nay
Missouri: Bond (R-MO), Yea Danforth (R-MO), Yea
Montana: Baucus (D-MT), Yea Burns (R-MT), Nay
Nebraska: Exon (D-NE), Yea Kerrey (D-NE), Yea
Nevada: Bryan (D-NV), Nay Reid (D-NV), Yea
New Hampshire: Gregg (R-NH), Nay Smith (R-NH), Nay
New Jersey: Bradley (D-NJ), Yea Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
New Mexico: Bingaman (D-NM), Yea Domenici (R-NM), Nay
New York: D'Amato (R-NY), Nay Moynihan (D-NY), Yea
North Carolina: Faircloth (R-NC), Nay Helms (R-NC), Nay
North Dakota: Conrad (D-ND), Yea Dorgan (D-ND), Not Voting
Ohio: Glenn (D-OH), Yea Metzenbaum (D-OH), Yea
Oklahoma: Boren (D-OK), Yea Nickles (R-OK), Nay
Oregon: Hatfield (R-OR), Yea Packwood (R-OR), Yea
Pennsylvania: Specter (R-PA), Nay Wofford (D-PA), Yea
Rhode Island: Chafee (R-RI), Yea Pell (D-RI), Yea
South Carolina: Hollings (D-SC), Nay Thurmond (R-SC), Yea
South Dakota: Daschle (D-SD), Yea Pressler (R-SD), Nay
Tennessee: Mathews (D-TN), Yea Sasser (D-TN), Yea
Texas: Gramm (R-TX), Nay Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Utah: Bennett (R-UT), Nay Hatch (R-UT), Nay
Vermont: Jeffords (R-VT), Yea Leahy (D-VT), Nay
Virginia: Robb (D-VA), Yea Warner (R-VA), Yea
Washington: Gorton (R-WA), Yea Murray (D-WA), Yea
West Virginia: Byrd (D-WV), Yea Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Wisconsin: Feingold (D-WI), Yea Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Wyoming: Simpson (R-WY), Nay Wallop (R-WY), Nay