More on the failed Pa game commission deer plan - audit article
03-05-2010, 09:28 AM
#141
Fork Horn
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Lancaster co. PA
Posts: 277
"I'm opposed to AR which gets them even more mad over there than if you don't like HR."
Not even close. While some may not like you being against ar, to those that matter over there, HR is the main issue of the oned these guys are talking about. Ar has nothing to do with preventing extreme unnatural levels of biodiversity and other such nonsense, and nothing to do with losing timber profits. Both things they are clearly concerned with.
I'd also say you are fairly low key. I know all the "players" and usual combatants and only vaguely recognized your name as being a very casually posting board member, and couldnt even recall what your position is on the deer management issues. I see another member didnt recognize you from over there either... Id hardly think theyd see you as a threat to the status quo. lol.
Not even close. While some may not like you being against ar, to those that matter over there, HR is the main issue of the oned these guys are talking about. Ar has nothing to do with preventing extreme unnatural levels of biodiversity and other such nonsense, and nothing to do with losing timber profits. Both things they are clearly concerned with.
I'd also say you are fairly low key. I know all the "players" and usual combatants and only vaguely recognized your name as being a very casually posting board member, and couldnt even recall what your position is on the deer management issues. I see another member didnt recognize you from over there either... Id hardly think theyd see you as a threat to the status quo. lol.
Odd, considering I have made close to 7,000 posts there.
03-05-2010, 10:06 AM
#142
Fork Horn
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 171
Let's not forget that bear season was closed for a few years prior to the boom in numbers,,,then restricted seasons...went from 1 week to 3 days (no weekend)...MAYBE just MAYBE we should do that with deer in some WMUs too!!!!!!!!
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03-05-2010, 10:07 AM
#143
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: York, PA.
Posts: 1,313
03-05-2010, 10:37 AM
#145
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,262
I'm opposed to anything the PGC suggests in regard to deer...let them show me one single success story the've been responsible for in the last 15 years...turkeys?? no theat was the NWTF (of which I am a member)..elk??? no that was RMEF (of which I am a member)..phesants????...no don't get me started on them cause I'm a member of PF too!
Every single success of recent times with regard to wild game came about by independant groups not the PGC..time for the PGC to outsource the deer management too!!!!!!!
Every single success of recent times with regard to wild game came about by independant groups not the PGC..time for the PGC to outsource the deer management too!!!!!!!
03-05-2010, 10:48 AM
#146
Banned
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location:
Posts: 2,978
"It all started with just four
conservation-minded sportsmen with new ideas on how sportsmen and environmentalists can work together for fish and wildlife and their precious habitat."
Statement from your groups site doug. Considering all the problems environmentalists are now causing, id hardly want to crawl into bed with the enemy. I have no problem with environmentalists in general, but they need to keep their friggin noses OUT of our business so much, instead of pulling them in further!
conservation-minded sportsmen with new ideas on how sportsmen and environmentalists can work together for fish and wildlife and their precious habitat."
Statement from your groups site doug. Considering all the problems environmentalists are now causing, id hardly want to crawl into bed with the enemy. I have no problem with environmentalists in general, but they need to keep their friggin noses OUT of our business so much, instead of pulling them in further!
03-05-2010, 10:54 AM
#147
Fork Horn
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Lancaster co. PA
Posts: 277
I admit I'm not a big one for the AR/HR forum. I was at one time but it just got to be the exact same guys arguing the exact same things. Only so much of that I could handle.
03-05-2010, 11:04 AM
#148
Fork Horn
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location:
Posts: 200
Doug is not that bad of a guy he comes across at times as some alpha hunter but that’s just Doug. Over the years we have had some heated discussions but in the end he has his views and I have mine. Will we ever agree NO! but I do respect him for standing up for what he believes in and mutual respect is shown on both sides when we are discussing deer
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03-05-2010, 12:39 PM
#149
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,879
Some guys need to get over their mancrush they have on HPA. If HPA bothers you that much it's because you got run out. If you got run out it's because you caused more trouble than you were worth having around. nobody fires up more people on HPA than myself, and I'm still there because I don't cast insults at people.
That's not true RSB called me a flimflam man, a liar a con man and said I was full of horse-puckey and never got suspended. Even Doug called me a liar and a few other derogatory terms and he was never banned. Mutt was banned for posting my personal info , but was allowed to come back under a new screen name. The PGC bias on that site is obvious and undeniable.
03-05-2010, 12:58 PM
#150
Fork Horn
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Lancaster co. PA
Posts: 277
That's not true RSB called me a flimflam man, a liar a con man and said I was full of horse-puckey and never got suspended. Even Doug called me a liar and a few other derogatory terms and he was never banned. Mutt was banned for posting my personal info , but was allowed to come back under a new screen name. The PGC bias on that site is obvious and undeniable.
By "Mutt" do you mean Muttleysgone? I'll agree with you as far as two guys there, RSB and John S. they can get pretty mean at times and I don't think I could pull what they do. i'm not sure I'd want to try though either.