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NJheadhunter71 02-25-2010 03:47 PM

Pennsylvania PGC postings
 
Hey moderators is it possible to get PA hunters their own category for posting the constant barrage of complaints about PA, PA deer, PGC, the head of the fish and wildlife, the Governor etc etc ect......... It shouldn't say Northeast it should say PA complaint department! WAH WAH WAH! :cry:

fellas2 02-25-2010 03:56 PM

PA Posts
 
We're all waiting here at our computers for you to post a new thread about what you want to talk about !
Well,anything,anything at all ???? Just as I figured,nothing !

NJheadhunter71 02-25-2010 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by fellas2 (Post 3584171)
We're all waiting here at our computers for you to post a new thread about what you want to talk about !
Well,anything,anything at all ???? Just as I figured,nothing !

I am just kidding. You guys do have a battle over there in PA. I really do feel for you all. Jersey an't much better as you need a Ouija board to figure out the rules and dates. I used to hunt Potter county but stopped because of the lack of deer and the antler regs.

thndrchiken 02-26-2010 06:38 AM

Well considering that it is mainly two members doing the majority of the PGC bashing I don't know what can really be done. Maybe make a CornyBB forum.

Potterco 02-26-2010 07:03 AM

read over the posting on other northeast subjects...shouldn't take you too long

Cornelius08 02-26-2010 07:04 AM

I could write a short book using all the "anti pgc" statements made in the last 2 weeks in this forum, made by SEVERAL users, so i find your selectivity interesting to say the least.

We also arent bashing pgc any more than simply stating the facts and pointing out the ridiculousness of the incredibly extreme dmp.

But you have given me a good idea TC, I would support a separate forum for pot stirrers who whine about absolutely nothing in attempt to create conflict.:wave:

thndrchiken 02-26-2010 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by Cornelius08 (Post 3584514)
I could write a short book using all the "anti pgc" statements made in the last 2 weeks in this forum, made by SEVERAL users, so i find your selectivity interesting to say the least.

We also arent bashing pgc any more than simply stating the facts and pointing out the ridiculousness of the incredibly extreme dmp.

But you have given me a good idea TC, I would support a separate forum for pot stirrers who whine about absolutely nothing in attempt to create conflict.:wave:

While I will readily admit that you and BB do occasionally make contributions to the forum that are not bashing the PGC, the vast majority of your posts are exactly that PGC bashing.

Cornelius08 02-26-2010 07:30 AM

Sorry that stating the facts in regards to them = bashing. That should tell you something about the pgc.

W.Ztirem 02-26-2010 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by Cornelius08 (Post 3584514)
I could write a short book using all the "anti pgc" statements made in the last 2 weeks in this forum, made by SEVERAL users, so i find your selectivity interesting to say the least.

We also arent bashing pgc any more than simply stating the facts and pointing out the ridiculousness of the incredibly extreme dmp.

But you have given me a good idea TC, I would support a separate forum for pot stirrers who whine about absolutely nothing in attempt to create conflict.:wave:

I have read with interest what posters from Pa have had to say about the PGC and the quality of hunting in Pa. As a hunter for over 35 years in NY, I cannot complain, we have it a lot better than you. Hope the NYSDEC is not paying attention!

Yanks in six!

Ben / PA 02-26-2010 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by NJheadhunter71 (Post 3584164)
Hey moderators is it possible to get PA hunters their own category for posting the constant barrage of complaints about PA, PA deer, PGC, the head of the fish and wildlife, the Governor etc etc ect......... It shouldn't say Northeast it should say PA complaint department! WAH WAH WAH! :cry:

I'll second this. It's kind of annoying.

moosemike 03-02-2010 05:21 PM

pennsylvania had a booming deer population for far too long especially in the northcentral. Hunters aren't happy about this correction the PGC has made but it is needed nonetheless. If the last two generations would have shot some does we wouldn't be where we are today. There is still alot of great hunting in PA but not so much on public land.

Cornelius08 03-02-2010 06:18 PM


"Hunters aren't happy about this correction the PGC has made but it is needed nonetheless."
Some areas needed SOME reduction. ALL areas got reduction. Some areas needed none...others got far more than needed. The program was also based on MANY PROVEN lies and proven false predictions. Not only that deer are taking an undue amount of the blame for areas that do have lack of regen. We significantly cut the herd and have been 10 years since implementation of hr. What has it gained us? According to the audit....Very slight REGRESSION of the regeneration! lol

Time to say enough with the nonsense, some areas of the state dont have a thing wrong with the habitat and never did. Of those areas that do, cutting the herd to ridiculous levels below 10 dpsm didnt help. Time to cut our losses, let dcnr change their forestry practices to something that actually works and manage deer like all the other "normal" states.

moosemike 03-02-2010 06:49 PM

Antler restrictions is a bigger farce than herd reduction IMO.

bigcountry 03-02-2010 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by NJheadhunter71 (Post 3584164)
Hey moderators is it possible to get PA hunters their own category for posting the constant barrage of complaints about PA, PA deer, PGC, the head of the fish and wildlife, the Governor etc etc ect......... It shouldn't say Northeast it should say PA complaint department! WAH WAH WAH! :cry:

I agree, I just don't see the need to ruin the entire forum. And what amazes is its only 2-4 guys who are ruining it. And whats even more amazing is these people are grown men. A bunch newbies who do not contribute to any hunting forum. I honestly wonder if they even hunt.

Cornelius08 03-02-2010 09:01 PM


"Antler restrictions is a bigger farce than herd reduction IMO. "
Youre welcome to that opinion. Most i know support ar, I do as well. Some dont...

Just about everyone i know DOESNT support the ridiculous level of hr.


Btw MM, ignore the interruptions. Someone clearly is screaming for attention, jumping in on every thread, as if any of us care. The rules are the rules and noones breaking them.

Potterco 03-03-2010 02:47 AM


Originally Posted by moosemike (Post 3587378)
pennsylvania had a booming deer population for far too long especially in the northcentral. Hunters aren't happy about this correction the PGC has made but it is needed nonetheless. If the last two generations would have shot some does we wouldn't be where we are today. There is still alot of great hunting in PA but not so much on public land.


where do you get off saying hunters didn't shoot does? "Doe Days" in Potter County and most of the other counties were as big as the opener of buck! Camps were full an the local shops were making $$.. Doe tags were sold out quickly each year and in alot of counties if you didn't have an in to get one you didn't ......apparently you don't know what you're talking about...again

moosemike 03-03-2010 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by Potterco (Post 3587545)
where do you get off saying hunters didn't shoot does? "Doe Days" in Potter County and most of the other counties were as big as the opener of buck! Camps were full an the local shops were making $$.. Doe tags were sold out quickly each year and in alot of counties if you didn't have an in to get one you didn't ......apparently you don't know what you're talking about...again



Apparently I do. I'm just old enough to remember the days of 100 deer standing in the same field together. And I know the older generation and their "buck only" philosophy very well too. maybe you need to get out more?

moosemike 03-03-2010 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by Cornelius08 (Post 3587521)
Youre welcome to that opinion. Most i know support ar, I do as well. Some dont...

Just about everyone i know DOESNT support the ridiculous level of hr.


Btw MM, ignore the interruptions. Someone clearly is screaming for attention, jumping in on every thread, as if any of us care. The rules are the rules and noones breaking them.



All AR does IMO is take a guy who would have shot a spike on the first morning and force him to stay out in the woods and he ends up shooting a six or an eight that really would have been something in another year. we're shooting off ouor sixes and eight's and too many spikes and forkies are doing the breeding. I saw bigger bucks in the past.

Potterco 03-03-2010 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by moosemike (Post 3587663)
Apparently I do. I'm just old enough to remember the days of 100 deer standing in the same field together. And I know the older generation and their "buck only" philosophy very well too. maybe you need to get out more?

What type of a mealy mouth post is this? You didn't even begin to address the topic...just what were all those hunters doing buying those doe tags in the 50s,60s,70s,80s...what were they doing in their deer camps starting the last Saturday of buck season thru the following Wed.? .... what were all those brown 4 legged critters hanging from one side of the camp meat pole to the other?????
Geeze Louise you post just like your alias does..hmmmm wonder whom it could be t be ????????????

Screamin Steel 03-03-2010 07:26 AM

Weird. A guy that says he supports HR but not AR. Never heard of such a thing. :E Guess the next move is goodbye AR, every deer that moves is fair game? Interesting viewpoint.

BTBowhunter 03-03-2010 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by Potterco (Post 3587695)
What type of a mealy mouth post is this? You didn't even begin to address the topic...just what were all those hunters doing buying those doe tags in the 50s,60s,70s,80s...what were they doing in their deer camps starting the last Saturday of buck season thru the following Wed.? .... what were all those brown 4 legged critters hanging from one side of the camp meat pole to the other?????
Geeze Louise you post just like your alias does..hmmmm wonder whom it could be t be ????????????


Too funny considering this quote by Potterco in another forum......


When I started to hunt if you killed a doe the other hunters whom knew you would berate you until you learned your lesson that is what we need today...if the PGC won't listen then we need to police our own ranks!!!!!

Potterco 03-03-2010 07:36 AM

never said I was killing them doe just said the camps were full of doe killers..thought the be t be would draw you out...guess it worked

Lanse couche couche 03-03-2010 07:50 AM

About the only fact that Cornie states is that a large number of PA deer hunters are not happy with the deer management plan. But that sentiment can also be found in states that are considered to be golden spots for deer hunting. Everything else he says needs to be taken with a grain of salt since sometimes the opinions of the Chicken little crowd are contradicted by polls or their own admissions of regularly filling their tags with nice deer despite claiming that deer hunting in PA is ruined. :woot:

Cornelius08 03-03-2010 02:49 PM


"I voted room for improvement. That was the closest to my opinion. I think they are doing more things right than wrong but just barely. "
Sounds like a pretty hollow review doesnt it? Well that statement was made on another board by the most avid pgc supporter on this board or that one. Kinda shows how much support pgc are really getting when one who argues more than anyone else in support feels so "luke warm" on the issue? Seems like some arent really all that concerned one way or the other, but just LOVE to argue.


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