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#91
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,879
Just how do you know I am not happy that H4L 23 got his buck and saw lots of deer? Did I say anything negative about what he did, or did I simply question how it was possible to have so many deer without having crop damage and over browsing. My only goal was to point out that his experience wasn't anywhere close to what the vast majority of hunters will experience on public land and I was right.
#92
Just how do you know I am not happy that H4L 23 got his buck and saw lots of deer? Did I say anything negative about what he did, or did I simply question how it was possible to have so many deer without having crop damage and over browsing. My only goal was to point out that his experience wasn't anywhere close to what the vast majority of hunters will experience on public land and I was right.
And what you always fail to recognize is that any hunter CAN do what H4L23 did or what DougE does or what Livbucks does or Blkpowder or BWJ or countless others on here. The deer are out there. Agreeably less than we had before and not every hunter is going to harvest one every year and it's never been that way. All we are entitled to is the opportunity for the pursuit. How we individually handle that opportunity is up to us. If you gave up even a fraction of the time you spend rationalizing why other guys success is unfair and spent that time trying to improve your situation, maybe youd have better results.
When it comes to hunting, you get back what you put into it. Put negative efforts in and you'll get negative results. Perhaps if you started thinking about how you can instead of why you can't, the results would be different.
#93
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,879
If you gave up even a fraction of the time you spend rationalizing why other guys success is unfair and spent that time trying to improve your situation, maybe youd have better results.
When it comes to hunting, you get back what you put into it. Put negative efforts in and you'll get negative results
#94
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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Pgc should be managing responsibly. They are getting a healthy wad of cash each and every year to do that and they arent. Doesnt matter if everyone on this board kills a deer or never does. Pgcs attitude towards hunters sucks, the management stinks, and something needs done. Those issues dont magically go away if a couple of these guys suddenly become more successful or if they quit complaining.
#95
I never said other hunters success was unfair. You just keep making things up in order to start an argument.
What exactly were you saying when you claimed that I "buy" my deer?
What exactly were you saying when you berated Jim for having his own personal deer farm?
What exactly do you mean when you say something suggesting that a guy wouldn't have seen so many deer if everyone hunted his spot?
The plain fact is that you go on the attack virtually every time a PA hunter talks on here of seeing good deer numbers where you often make unfounded "yeah but" allegations as to why he has his success. It's gotten very old.
#97
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,879
Well gee, what exactly were you saying when you claimed that DougE "takes advantage" of low hunting pressure in 2G and that hunting public land in 2G is like hunting a private preserve?
What exactly were you saying when you claimed that I "buy" my deer?
What exactly were you saying when you berated Jim for having his own personal deer farm?
What exactly do you mean when you say something suggesting that a guy wouldn't have seen so many deer if everyone hunted his spot?
The plain fact is that you go on the attack virtually every time a PA hunter talks on here of seeing good deer numbers where you often make unfounded "yeah but" allegations as to why he has his success. It's gotten very old.
What exactly were you saying when you claimed that I "buy" my deer?
What exactly were you saying when you berated Jim for having his own personal deer farm?
What exactly do you mean when you say something suggesting that a guy wouldn't have seen so many deer if everyone hunted his spot?
The plain fact is that you go on the attack virtually every time a PA hunter talks on here of seeing good deer numbers where you often make unfounded "yeah but" allegations as to why he has his success. It's gotten very old.
None of that means those hunters had an unfair advantage. It just means they happen to be in an area where can benefit from the conditions that exist in that area. But it is also true no matter how much effort hunters may put forth the sustainable harvest is determined by the number of deer that are recruited and not by how hard we hunt.
#98
Based on what you're suggesting, there's no success in harvesting a matriarch doe. I guess I didn't have a "successful" year by blues standards since I didn't have any antlers with which to measure my success.
#100
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,879
Blue....you see...success isn't measured by the size of the rack...it's measured by the age of that deer and the effort that was put in huntin