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Maverick 1 01-26-2010 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by BTBowhunter (Post 3563326)

So, lets see, on here it's claimed that a vast majority is unhappy. A poll here even supports that. Of course we all know, mostly from the disgruntled, that this site has become the last hideout for those banned from other sites that dare to allow this subject to go on. Of course the all PA site which happens to have 3-4 times more participants online at any given time from one state than this one has from all 50, has an entirely different tone. The tone there is one of support for most of the current DMP. Not that there arent suggestions for improvement, but over there, folks dont claim the sky is falling.

If you think that site is so great, then why don't you go over there and post your dribble.

BTBowhunter 01-26-2010 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by Maverick 1 (Post 3563351)
If you think that site is so great, then why don't you go over there and post your dribble.


I can post what I like here so long as it conforms to the rules.

Do you have anything to contribute other than your personal attack?

Do you have an original thought as to why so few folks showed up to protest the current DMP? If you do, please feel free to post it.

Potterco 01-26-2010 10:14 AM

Throw a rock through the crystal palace.......just do not buy a hunting lisence next year!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maverick 1 01-26-2010 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by BTBowhunter (Post 3563386)
I can post what I like here so long as it conforms to the rules.

Do you have anything to contribute other than your personal attack?

Do you have an original thought as to why so few folks showed up to protest the current DMP? If you do, please feel free to post it.

No need to get all huffy about it. If you think that other site is such a great place, then have at it. Go post there. Noone here is stopping you.

ManySpurs 01-26-2010 03:32 PM

I dunno BTB....when I write and talk to BOCers and HGFC members, and they tell me that they are being hammered with complaints about the DMP, I tend to believe them and think that there are many that are complaining.

About the only BOCer that I've communicated with that said he wasn't receiving complaints, was Greg Isabella. And as far I'm concerned, he's about as antihunter as one can get, and I don't believe a word he says anymore.

Let's face it, there can be many reasons why so few turned out to testify. High gas prices, total apathy, and feelings of hopelessness are but a few of the conglomeration of reasons as to why folks didn't show up.

But for you or anyone else to claim that folks are happy about the DMP because of the small turnout at the PGC meeting is unreasonable. The majority of people are PO'd, rightfully so and you know it. Admit it.:bash:

Remember....Slinsky made that claim about busloads. Not any of us here.

BTBowhunter 01-26-2010 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by Maverick 1 (Post 3563612)
No need to get all huffy about it. If you think that other site is such a great place, then have at it. Go post there. Noone here is stopping you.


Not huffy. I post there as well as here.

No ideas of your own as to why so few showed up when so many are so "huffy" about the deer?

Maverick 1 01-26-2010 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by BTBowhunter (Post 3563698)
Not huffy. I post there as well as here.

No ideas of your own as to why so few showed up when so many are so "huffy" about the deer?

So you do post over there. What username do you use?

BTBowhunter 01-26-2010 04:48 PM


But for you or anyone else to claim that folks are happy about the DMP because of the small turnout at the PGC meeting is unreasonable. The majority of people are PO'd, rightfully so and you know it. Admit it.
I'm not trying to say that all are happy. Majority unhappy statewide? No I'm not convinced. Thats certainly not the case not around here. And for that matter, not around my camp in 2F either although there are certainly more there who arent happy than we have close to home. As for the rest of the state, no one has done a meaningful assessment since the whole AR/HR thing began. I think we'll both agree that It's high time for that to happen.
You gotta admit that the empty seats in that auditorium don't do much to support your position. Dont know about you but If I were angry about something as important as my hunting, I certainly wouldnt give up and stay home. Think about it.

Maverick 1 01-26-2010 05:20 PM

I guess you're not going to give that information out. Must be too personal.

germain 01-26-2010 06:47 PM

Heck BT I didn't know you hung out over there.:cool15:

Fellows there were two different polls over there.The one basically asked if hunters were satisfied with the PGC.The majority said yes.
But then another poll asked if people were happy with HR and the majority said no.Yet another poll asked if there should be changes in deer management and a very high majority said yes.Some wanted the system tweaked and others wanted major changes.
Heck I didn't know this was a hang out for the banned.I haven't been booted from a hunting site.Got kicked out of a chat room one night when I was half drunk.Still don't know how I typed that night.:violin:
Also went undercover and went into peta and got banned.You know I asked those clowns if it was OK to spank my monkey when it's bad and they took me serious.:rolleye0011:
Got kicked out of the peta sucks site cause the kids in there thought I was anti hunter.Pizzed me off.

ManySpurs 01-27-2010 02:17 AM


Originally Posted by germain (Post 3563866)
Heck BT I didn't know you hung out over there.:cool15:

Also went undercover and went into peta and got banned.You know I asked those clowns if it was OK to spank my monkey when it's bad and they took me serious.:rolleye0011:
Got kicked out of the peta sucks site cause the kids in there thought I was anti hunter.Pizzed me off.

ROFLMAO.


Dont know about you but If I were angry about something as important as my hunting, I certainly wouldnt give up and stay home. Think about it.
BTB.....look at it this way and I think perhaps you'll get a better feel....and I think I'm speaking for alot of folks in the more distant corners of our state from Harrisburg because I am in touch with many of them.

Why should I/we travel 3-4 hours to Harrisburg to serve up a 5 minute recital when I can set here, with all the comforts of home, and communicate with all of the players involved by email, snailmail and telephone. You DO realize that these players all have telephones don't you? Best of all, I can express my views over the course of an hour long conversation a he11uva lot better and with alot more substance to back up my views on the phone than I can with a 5 minute stand at the podium.

Sure, it would have been nice to see a standing room only crowd in that auditorium. However, I take into consideration that there were quite a few folks from up this way that had plans to travel to Harrisburg. Unfortunately, Jim Slinsky had a LTE in the Potter Leader last week in which he stated that he knew of several busloads of disgruntled hunters that were going to show up for the meeting, and many of the folks that I know from up this way figured with suvh a large turnout, they might as well stay home.

There's alot of reasons why that auditorium wasn't filled, and a plethora of happy hunters isn't one of them. BTW BTB, why weren't you there voicing your support?

sproulman 01-27-2010 09:51 AM

protest in harrisburg,pa.
 
i found out about this protest 4 days before it was to happen.
it would cost me 50 dollars in gas and eating on top to go.
5 years ago when i was making 10,000 in bank on my interest yearly,now i am making -500 dollars, thats right ,fees are more than the interest we get.economy is bad............
then you have weather etc.

right now no one seems to care anymore locally here in clinton county on deer, they are just worn down.older farts are dying off,young farts taking over.the dcnr has the local clubs to point they agree with them on having no deer.our clubs are now hiking/canoeing, birdwatching clubs.nothing wrong with those people, i like to do all those things too but DEER hunting is way down list now.

this is why when you see memberships in local clubs its 90% out of area people with over half that dont hunt .10% local.it used to be other way around.

things must be getting bad on deer numbers out of WMU2G of pa. also. every year i am seeing more hunters in clinton county than year before.if hunting was great elsewhere, they would stay there.it is most likely getting close to being as bad as here.
also more hunters are moving around where they see A DEER.
THIS IS putting a lot of hunters in 1 area........

also you cant just go sit in woods now.most dont know how to stalk a deer so they join a CREW or camp group.most tell sproul this,SPROUL I USED TO GO SIT AND SEE A DEER, NOW I SIT FOR DAYS AND SEE NOTHING.
SO I JOIN A CREW AND AT LEAST SEE OR WE GET A DEER ONCE IN AWHILE.
this is why i am now seeing big crews again15/20 hunters.looking at most, they dont look like very good hunters to me.........


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