What PA needs ....................
01-07-2010, 02:22 PM
#231
Fork Horn
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Sorry fellas but you're missing the point,DCNR wanted a rifle season on state forests from Sept through january,Did they get it?Nope.They wanted baiting allowed.Did they get it?Nope.Currently baiting is only allowed on PRIVATE LAND in one SRA.They wanted unlimited tags and the ability for people to mow down as many deer as they had tags for without tagging the first.Did they get that?Nope.They wanted people to hand over their tags if they didn't use them.Did they get that?Nope.that's a far cry from the mentored youth program.They wanted people to be able to kill as many deer as they wanted as long as they had buddies to tag them.Did they get that?Nope.I fail to see how DCNR caved.
DMAP was designed so private landowners could better manage their property.It's absurd to think that any private landowner should be forced to let just anyone on their property.That's simply insane.Sorry but nobody should be forced to suffer financially from deer damage of any type because hunters want more easy targets.
I don't know Merlin Benner.I've never met him or talked to him.I do know that DCNR has several biologists.Why is that a bad thing?Do they have a special bear season,aspecial turkey season?They want the ability to control deer numbers to achieve the goals they have set.I'm not crazy about their goals but undertsnad that I'm only part of the 8% of citizens that hunt.The fact that I have hundreds of thousands of acres to use for free and for many other uses is unreal.A larger deer herd and better deer habitat would be nice but it's still good hunting by my standards.
DMAP was designed so private landowners could better manage their property.It's absurd to think that any private landowner should be forced to let just anyone on their property.That's simply insane.Sorry but nobody should be forced to suffer financially from deer damage of any type because hunters want more easy targets.
I don't know Merlin Benner.I've never met him or talked to him.I do know that DCNR has several biologists.Why is that a bad thing?Do they have a special bear season,aspecial turkey season?They want the ability to control deer numbers to achieve the goals they have set.I'm not crazy about their goals but undertsnad that I'm only part of the 8% of citizens that hunt.The fact that I have hundreds of thousands of acres to use for free and for many other uses is unreal.A larger deer herd and better deer habitat would be nice but it's still good hunting by my standards.
The wild thing is Doug you support and defend this hair brained half ****ed agency time and time again unbelievable
Come on Doug you can’t honestly tell anyone here that the herd can’t be controlled with the unlimited tags issued
Why don’t you tell us all how your beloved DCNR held the game commission hostage till the got what they wanted. DMAP was never intended for the average pa land owner it was and is meant for DCNR of further up the kill
01-07-2010, 03:07 PM
#232
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: 2G Gaines Pa
Posts: 524
DougE;
The fact that I have hundreds of thousands of acres to use for free and for many other uses is unreal.A larger deer herd and better deer habitat would be nice but it's still good hunting by my standards.
The fact that I have hundreds of thousands of acres to use for free and for many other uses is unreal.A larger deer herd and better deer habitat would be nice but it's still good hunting by my standards.
I don't know where Merlin Benners name came into this fray. But I've met Merlin and he is a nice enough guy. However, I have to question his motives from his stance in 2001 when he stated that the deer herd was doing well in the Tioga State Forest and that herd health indicated that food was abundant to his about face in 2002 when this DMP started.
01-08-2010, 01:58 AM
#235
Typical Buck
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01-08-2010, 04:01 AM
#236
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,879
Here is Merlin's company.
I wonder why here didn't mention deer. could it be there aren't enough left to have a significant impact?
He does mention deer on his website.
Micro Management Resource Consultants
www.wildlife-specialists.com
Merlin Benner, Wildlife Specialist
2780 Hills Creek Rd
Wellsboro, PA 16901
570.376.2255
[email protected]
Specializing in wildlife surveys for impact assessment. Experience surveying most wildlife species of Pennsylvania and the northeast, including timber rattlesnakes, woodrats, and bats.
www.wildlife-specialists.com
Merlin Benner, Wildlife Specialist
2780 Hills Creek Rd
Wellsboro, PA 16901
570.376.2255
[email protected]
Specializing in wildlife surveys for impact assessment. Experience surveying most wildlife species of Pennsylvania and the northeast, including timber rattlesnakes, woodrats, and bats.
He does mention deer on his website.
Last edited by bluebird2; 01-08-2010 at 04:03 AM.
01-08-2010, 12:20 PM
#237
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,262
The wild thing is Doug you support and defend this hair brained half ****ed agency time and time again unbelievable
Come on Doug you can’t honestly tell anyone here that the herd can’t be controlled with the unlimited tags issued
Why don’t you tell us all how your beloved DCNR held the game commission hostage till the got what they wanted. DMAP was never intended for the average pa land owner it was and is meant for DCNR of further up the kill
Come on Doug you can’t honestly tell anyone here that the herd can’t be controlled with the unlimited tags issued
Why don’t you tell us all how your beloved DCNR held the game commission hostage till the got what they wanted. DMAP was never intended for the average pa land owner it was and is meant for DCNR of further up the kill
DMAP certainly is intented for any landowners that wants more intense management.I know alot more landowners than just DCNR who utilize it.
01-10-2010, 03:11 PM
#239
Giant Nontypical
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: PA
Posts: 8,167
I got the chains on my tractor today, we might not have the most state forest land but we got more snow.
Just under 40 inches on my neighbors deck, in the woods its just over your knees, the grounds not frozen so its slowly going away.
I still couldn't make it to my turkey feeder, its on top of the hill.Maybe this week.
I put down close to 400 pounds of corn this afternoon, and a new buck got here a bit ago, nice 8pt I'm guessing 2.5 year old, that makes 6 different bucks and untold does and fawns.
Shed hunting is getting better each day.
And the Packer / Cardinal game is getting fun to watch.
Just under 40 inches on my neighbors deck, in the woods its just over your knees, the grounds not frozen so its slowly going away.
I still couldn't make it to my turkey feeder, its on top of the hill.Maybe this week.
I put down close to 400 pounds of corn this afternoon, and a new buck got here a bit ago, nice 8pt I'm guessing 2.5 year old, that makes 6 different bucks and untold does and fawns.
Shed hunting is getting better each day.
And the Packer / Cardinal game is getting fun to watch.