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Old 12-29-2009, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Cornelius08
Is he actually saying dont do those things? Or is he simply stating the fact that they alone are not nearly enough?


Why dont we end the guessing game and just ask him so there is no misunderstanding?


So bb, do you contend all these things mentioned like hunters taking it upon themselves to harvest responsibly (in what should be few poor hunting areas of extreme low dd) and landowners improving the habitat have no place in Pa?


Or do you contend that they do, but are not a replacement for responsible management on the state level?
Just like the longest journey starts with a single foot step, responsible management starts with each and every one of us, we are the hunters who manage the herd and we can make a difference. One deer at a time.

We have incompetency in the white house but I'm not leaving the country, we have fools in the PGC but I'm not quiting hunting.
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Old 12-29-2009, 11:31 AM
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Well said Jim!
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Old 12-29-2009, 12:00 PM
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"We have incompetency in the white house but I'm not leaving the country, we have fools in the PGC but I'm not quiting hunting."

I agree, and i havent seen anyone arguing against that logic.
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Old 12-29-2009, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Cornelius08
"We have incompetency in the white house but I'm not leaving the country, we have fools in the PGC but I'm not quiting hunting."

I agree, and i havent seen anyone arguing against that logic.

AHHH how quickly one can forget his own words.....

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"I think we should scrap the entire PGC. dump it in the ocean and start from scratch. Pike"

I agree 100% Jeff. How can any of us expect responsible management into the future with so many nonhunter friendly, non-caring environmentalists etc. running the show who wont compromise with anything, have very obtuse values and lie & belittle us at every turn? I dont understand how such a tyranny can be permitted to exist in this country.
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Old 12-29-2009, 12:26 PM
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I don't get your point BTB - Where does Cornelius state other wise from that quote.

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Old 12-29-2009, 12:41 PM
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Hes simply trying to do with my post exactly what he does to nearly every single post bb makes.

What does my concern over need to get more hunter friendly people in place have anything at all to do with the quote or response???

""We have incompetency in the white house but I'm not leaving the country, we have fools in the PGC but I'm not quiting hunting."

I agree, and i havent seen anyone arguing against that logic.""
Like i said, I agree with Jim that we have incompetency existing in the whitehouse...I agree we have fools at pgc....and I agree that Im not about to quit hunting....So please, other than trying to twist my position in attempt to create an argument... What on earth are you talking about??
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Old 12-29-2009, 12:58 PM
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So bb, do you contend all these things mentioned like hunters taking it upon themselves to harvest responsibly (in what should be few poor hunting areas of extreme low dd) and landowners improving the habitat have no place in Pa?


Or do you contend that they do, but are not a replacement for responsible management on the state level?
Once again you nailed it . That is exactly my position. Heck , I've even done a lot of things suggested here like buying 87 acres and managing it for deer I've cut browse, planted pines and chestnut trees, winter rye , oats strawberries and even hostas for the deer. While it made me feel good it did little to improve my hunting.
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Old 12-29-2009, 01:02 PM
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Frankly, I find it difficult to buy the idea that 2 SM cant be managed because of PA's DMP. Either they arent doing things right or someone's not telling the whole story.
You may find it hard to believe but that clubs management plan worked just fine for the 40-50 years prior to 2003. But,since then they went from harvesting 12-14 buck per year to 4 buck in 2009.
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Old 12-29-2009, 01:42 PM
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Just like the longest journey starts with a single foot step, responsible management starts with each and every one of us, we are the hunters who manage the herd and we can make a difference. One deer at a time.
Individual hunters could make a difference if we all agreed on a common goal. But since some hunters still support the PGC DMP ,while others oppose it, the actions of one group can cancel out the efforts of the other group and nothing is accomplished.
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Originally Posted by JW!
I don't get your point BTB - Where does Cornelius state other wise from that quote.

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In this particular instance, he says he agrees 100% with the idea of scrapping the PGC and dumping it in the ocean. Hardly a realistic idea. I agree he didnt quite say quit hunting, although he has suggested quitting PA for another state before more than once.
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