ManySpurs

I've gotta say...the Food & Cover crews do a fantastic job on SGLs 208 & 64. I've seen them knocking down browse in the dead of winter many times. They plant plenty of millet, sorgham, clover, turnips and brassicas. Just ain't many deer to take advantage of it.

bluebird2

Isn't it amazing that the habitat in Clearfield Co. that has been overbrowsed for over 80 years ,can support 126 DPSM, yet the PGC claims the habitat in 5B can only support 5 DPSM.

bluebird2

The grunt PGC land management employees do their best to improve the habitat and the commissioners defeat their efforts by issuing so many antlerless tags so that the herd is reduced to levels much lower than the MSY CC.

ManySpurs

Yea it's "super" alright. <<<<Sarcasm

In 1998, the PGC sold 67,386 non resident licenses.
In 2002 they sold 61,721 non resident licenses
In 2008, they sold 51,994 non resident licenses

But hey.....everything is just peachy according to the parking lot survey done on the Sunday before firearms season in the parking lot of one of the few sporting goods shops in Tioga County.

ManySpurs

Agreed.

Cornelius08

I dont think i need to tell YOU spurs, but just for anyone else who might not know by some chance, that of course was sarcasm on my part as well, and was in reply to Denny, one who believes the deer plan has caused no maleffects, and is in NO WAY responsible for any hunters quitting.

Cornelius08

While I stand by my statement LITTLE in the way of habitat improvement for deer is done around this area, not nearly what should be expected, I generally dont have a problem with the "grunts" either generally speaking. There may be areas managed much better land wise, there may be an odd idiot wco here or there (as with any profession) around the state, but for the most part they are good people and do overall, far more good than harm.

Same cannot be said of the higher ups. Not even close.

..... I really do despise seeing that eyesore pavillion when i drive by. lol Not only does it not belong there, it reminds me of every thing thats wrong with our pgc currently.

germain

The 5B DPSM is what upsets Jeff Pike.Heck it's mostly farmland here with woodlots and some public hunting.The public lands owned by PPL,PGC,and some others is all thick.There's alot of places you can't hunt because of the greenbriar.A rabbit aint even crazy enough to go in that stuff.
As for Clearfield the habitat all around our camp is prime but everything is open to hunting and that usually =few deer.

germain

I know quite a few hunters who quit over low deer numbers.They were all basically three day a year hunters but none the less it's lost revenue.

Cornelius08

And voice/weight in deer management decision making.

Its already pointed out continually by the antis & environmental extremists in a deceptive manner that our opinions shouldnt matter because we're only 8% or so of the population. Its only gonna be worse if that goes to 7, 6 or 5.