What PA needs ....................
12-29-2009, 03:10 PM
#102
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: 2G Gaines Pa
Posts: 524
I was never big on the RoundUp idea anyway. Tops are to beneficial to not be laying on the ground protecting new growth from those vorocious deer.
12-29-2009, 03:18 PM
#103
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: 2G Gaines Pa
Posts: 524
Absolutely not. Any biologist that worked for at least 2 decades before he knew what a browseline looked like was out in left field. For crying out loud, I knew what a browseline was at the age of 10 and I grew up in Bethlehem Township in the flatlands where only a handfull of deer existed along the Lehigh River. Anybody that ever picked up a Game News in the 60s knew what a browseline was. Where the he11 was Gary Alt?
Alt was a conman and I'm being kind when I say that.
Alt was a conman and I'm being kind when I say that.
12-30-2009, 09:50 AM
#106
Typical Buck
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Posts: 659
LMAO
Last edited by Screamin Steel; 12-30-2009 at 09:59 AM.
12-30-2009, 11:59 AM
#107
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,879
Here is a classic example of QDMA reps like Kip, intentional misrepresent the history of deer management in PA.
Although he was right when he said the B/D ratio was<3:1, what he didn't say is that the B/D was actually 1:2 and has been since 1980. He also failed to mention that in 2002, before we saved any bucks due to ARs we harvested 52K ,2.5+ buck which means there were at least 60K PS ,so around 25% of our PS buck were 2.5+ yrs.
Even then, Pennsylvania 's state-wide sex ratio was <3:1. The deer population was skewed towards females but an even bigger problem was nearly all the bucks were yearlings. Pennsylvania 's new seasons are designed to tighten the sex ratio and increase the age structure of the buck population. The state of New Hampshire has a successful deer management program and its state-wide deer herd has approximately 1.5 adult does per adult buck with nearly 60% of the bucks being 2.5 years and older.
12-30-2009, 12:36 PM
#108
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: 2G Gaines Pa
Posts: 524
Although he was right when he said the B/D ratio was<3:1, what he didn't say is that the B/D was actually 1:2 and has been since 1980. He also failed to mention that in 2002, before we saved any bucks due to ARs we harvested 52K ,2.5+ buck which means there were at least 60K PS ,so around 25% of our PS buck were 2.5+ yrs.
Last edited by ManySpurs; 12-30-2009 at 12:39 PM.
12-30-2009, 02:45 PM
#109
Typical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: PA
Posts: 522
Still seeing Vermont plates up in our neck of the woods and have since the late 80s, but the Canajuns that once came, have been missing since before HR started. Don't think I've ever seen a NH plate in Ackley's lot when the place is mobbed?
Still lots of MD, DE and NJ ones, though.
One of the local DWCOs used to drive around nights right before buck season openers, with a Vermont plate on the front bumper. Don't think he ever fooled anyone, since the truck had a PA plate on the rear bumper. Used to see him alot when we were spotting.
Kip's place is down near Knoxville, I think?
Still lots of MD, DE and NJ ones, though.
One of the local DWCOs used to drive around nights right before buck season openers, with a Vermont plate on the front bumper. Don't think he ever fooled anyone, since the truck had a PA plate on the rear bumper. Used to see him alot when we were spotting.
Kip's place is down near Knoxville, I think?
