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WestVirginiaBrent 12-10-2009 05:33 PM

Pic of the hunter who cost me an 8 point, 4A.
 
7:33am, I kick out a HUGE buck in the bottom area of where I hunt, right by the river where I didn't expect to see one, and where there was no sign, but he was in there and I missed the only shot I had at him while he was trotting away. I couldn't count tines, but his main beams were the size of my wrist and the deer was gray and huge, the biggest buck I have pulled the trigger on. I misjudged the distance bigtime and I bet I shot right over his back.

11:33am, I find a nice 8 point on a brushy bank about 80-90 yards away,I'm in an open field walking to my car, it sees me, but probably doesn't spook, just stands there motionless, it probably thinks it's concealed. If he steps 5 steps to the left, right, or down I have him, where he is at is too brushy so it's a Mexican Standoff. He doesn't move for 10 minutes, but staying where I am is the best odds of getting him, if he runs up the hill I have no shot what so ever, and if I move I have no concealment and no rest.

11:43am, all hell breaks loose below the hill about 50 yards to the left of the buck, 4 does come running out , I glance down to see if one's a buck, maybe 3-5 seconds at most. I look back up the hill and the buck I was watching evaporated, he's gone and I don't know what direction he went.

11:50am, a spike runs out of the same place the doe came out of. Pennsylvannia has an at least 3 points on one side minimum before you can shoot it, not that I have any interest in a spike anyway.

I figure a hunter, a coyote, or a bear has spooked the deer, but lean strongly towards hunter. I decided to sneak up the point and get above where I suspect the buck went. I get half way up the hill and see what caused the ruckus. There is a 300-400 pound black bear leaning against a tree 40 yards above me and to the left. I grab my camera and take some pictures. I stand there for 15 minutes just watching him. I slowly still hunt up the hill, one step every 5 minutes or so, and take pics along the way. I get within 25-30 yards away and 2 doe come down to me on the right. So I have a bear 30 yards due left, and 2 doe 15 yards due right, with me in the middle, pretty weird feeling, but I didn't think the bear would do anything so I wasn't too worried. I also had my Browning Lever Action 300 Winchester Short Magnum with 4 bullets ready to go. At this point I've watched the bear a good hour and I need him to leave so he doesn't cost me more deer. I take a few steps, let him get a clear visual and he bolted out of there.....extremely quietly I might add.

While I have seen one other bear while hunting, it was over 200 yards away, this was face to face on the ground at 35 yards, which was an amazing experience. They are black beyond black, the deepest black I have ever seen. Their eyesight must be horrible, and the wind was always in my favor. Sadly, the 8 point he spooked was a very nice 8 as well, not of the caliber of my mounted 8's but still nice and would have been perfect for jerky.

All in all, it was the best of days, it was the worst of days.

My first glimpse of him:


He was just chilling, scratching his back, yawning, snoozing...


I'm no bear expert, but they must have some bad eyesight and be color blind, we were looking right at each other:


No zoom, about 25-30 yards away, too damned cool man.


His butt was big, 2.5-3 foot across.


I'm no bear expert, so my size guesstimate is wide swathing, but he dwarfed me and I'm 210. I know his ears look big, but his head was flat and his belly was sagging too.







White-tail-deer 12-10-2009 05:40 PM

Cool story and pics! Too bad you didn't get the Buck! Good Luck Saturday!

halfbakedi420 12-10-2009 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by WestVirginiaBrent (Post 3526322)
His butt was big, 2.5-3 foot across.



chekin him out ehhhh?

WestVirginiaBrent 12-10-2009 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by White-tail-deer (Post 3526330)
Cool story and pics! Too bad you didn't get the Buck! Good Luck Saturday!

Hopefullly. I made the mistake with the really large one of "still hunting to where I was going" instead of "still hunting where I was." I was too preoccupied trying to see where I wanted to go instead of noticing what was around me. The 7:33 buck was large, and I had a chance but I was zoning out.


Originally Posted by halfbakedi420 (Post 3526331)
chekin him out ehhhh?


Oh yeah. :wink:

I wanted a shot of his paw print, but the snow was crunchy and crispy and there was no clear print left, but it was 5-6" wide or so. It was cool, it's just ashame PA bear is during Opening day WV, I'll never get to go up there for it and I would have a decent chance.

BTBowhunter 12-10-2009 05:59 PM

Great pics and a great story! Sorry about the buck but look at it this way....this story will be alive long after another buck kill story would have died:s4:

WestVirginiaBrent 12-10-2009 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by BTBowhunter (Post 3526354)
Great pics and a great story! Sorry about the buck but look at it this way....this story will be alive long after another buck kill story would have died:s4:


Good point, and the experience was great, it's what we go out there for. I feel bad for people that don't get out in the woods and experience this kind of stuff.

blkpowder 12-11-2009 04:06 AM

That was a great story brent,Thanks for sharing. It's the ones that get away,that seem to stick in your mind forever.

livbucks 12-11-2009 05:04 AM

Very well documented story. I appreciate the read. I too judge a hunt's success by the experience, and not the filling of a tag. Although writing on tags is very nice as as well.

skybuster20ga 12-11-2009 03:22 PM

you hunt around al thyem houses?

WestVirginiaBrent 12-11-2009 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by skybuster20ga (Post 3527286)
you hunt around al thyem houses?


You can only see one house from that whole valley, the other near my dots are barns and buildings at the top of a hill. The area on the outside of the creek is cliff for about 50 feet. It's not really a very populated area. :confused:

BigBuck95 12-11-2009 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by halfbakedi420 (Post 3526331)
chekin him out ehhhh?

Dem bears be HAWWWTTTTT :happy0157:

NJ Camo Man 12-11-2009 04:56 PM

Very cool. Better luck next time!

RidgeFACTOR 12-14-2009 01:50 PM

Bear
 
Cool pic..........sorry about your hunt though...lol

WestVirginiaBrent 12-14-2009 03:07 PM

Thanks, it was cool though. I'm going to try and get a buck in the late season, I like my chances. And seeing the bear still has me on Cloud 9, and after research I am leaning towards he was close to 400 than 300 pounds.

bowfly 12-15-2009 04:44 AM

cool pics...what a good story

chazspot 12-16-2009 07:57 AM

Great story!

I have a question for you. I'm always curious what logic other hunters use for shooting bucks as opposed to does. I noticed you said that the eight point depicted in your story wasn't as nice as others you already have mounted. If you had killed this eight point would you have mounted it anyway? If not, would you have shot it just because it's a buck with a decent rack? Not knocking what other hunters shoot. To each his own. I just like to know what other hunters think when they are picking which animals to shoot when they have options.

Thanks

duramax04.5 12-17-2009 10:10 AM

You don't have a bear season there. If it was here he would be on my grill and a rug on my floor.

WestVirginiaBrent 12-17-2009 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by chazspot (Post 3531242)
Great story!

I have a question for you. I'm always curious what logic other hunters use for shooting bucks as opposed to does. I noticed you said that the eight point depicted in your story wasn't as nice as others you already have mounted. If you had killed this eight point would you have mounted it anyway? If not, would you have shot it just because it's a buck with a decent rack? Not knocking what other hunters shoot. To each his own. I just like to know what other hunters think when they are picking which animals to shoot when they have options.

Thanks


I don't have an antlerless tag for PA, so I was limited to a buck. I let this little basket 6 walk Opening Day there:



My requirement is it has to be a buck I am proud of, so the criteria is not set in stone. When I went out that day I had two things in my mind: trophy buck or jerky buck, he was a jerky buck.

I hunt 2 places, my buddy's land in PA and my place in Harrison County, WV. Opening day in PA I am holding out for a monster buck, because they are there. Opening Day WV and I am shooting any decent 2.5+ year old buck that walks in front of me. Here was my opening day WV buck:


WestVirginiaBrent 12-17-2009 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by duramax04.5 (Post 3532272)
You don't have a bear season there. If it was here he would be on my grill and a rug on my floor.


PA Bear starts on Opening Day rifle for WV, I don't miss Opening Day WV for anything short of a zombie apocalypse. :s1:

Western MA Hunter 12-18-2009 04:00 AM

too bad you didn't get the buck.. cool encounter though..
I had that happen in MA once, but it wasn't an 8 pointer, only a yearling doe, so I wasn't too upset!

fatsbucknut 12-19-2009 02:05 PM

Thats a heck of a bear! What county did you see him in? Alot of big ones were killed throughout the state this year.

chazspot 12-21-2009 07:53 AM


I don't have an antlerless tag for PA, so I was limited to a buck.
Thanks for the reply. I was unaware that some hunters have to draw an anterless tag for shooting does. In MD we have a surplus of does and the limits are set that you could really shoot as many as you want. I tend to shoot does exclusivley unless my deer hunting property owner asks us to shoot a buck that won't amount to anything in terms of trophy size. Of course if I see a monster buck that I would actually mount I would shoot him. It's not often I see one of them.


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