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The PGC and the Audubon
Here is the best the PGC could come up with for a PR the second week of rifle season.
GAME COMMISSION URGES PARTICIPATION IN CHRISTMAS BIRD COUNT HARRISBURG – Pennsylvania Game Commission officials are urging wildlife enthusiasts to join the tens of thousands of volunteers throughout the United States in the Audubon Society’s 110th Annual Christmas Bird Count (CBC), which will take place Dec. 14, through Jan. 5. “Bird enthusiasts, armed with binoculars, bird guides and checklists, will head out on an annual mission - often before dawn - to make a difference and to experience the beauty of creation,” said Dan Brauning, Game Commission Wildlife Diversity Section supervisor. “Each year, volunteers brave snow, wind, or rain, to take part in the Christmas Bird Count, and they have made an enormous contribution to conservation to help guide conservation actions. “The data collected through this effort – which is the longest-running wildlife census to assess the health of bird populations – allows researchers, conservation biologists, and other interested individuals to study the long-term health and status of bird populations across North America. When combined with other surveys such as the Breeding Bird Survey, it provides a picture of how the continent's bird populations have changed in time and space over the past hundred years.” Local counts will occur on one day between Dec. 14 and Jan. 5. Volunteers can pick the most convenient circle, or participate in more than one count. There is a specific methodology to the CBC, but everyone can participate. The count takes place within “Count Circles,” which focus on specific geographical areas. Each circle is led by a “Count Compiler,” who is an experienced birdwatcher, enabling beginning birders to learn while they assist. Also, those who live within the boundaries of a Count Circle can even stay at home and report the birds that visit their backyard feeders, or join a group of birdwatchers in a local field. “In either case, if you have never been on a CBC before your first step is to locate and contact your local Count Compiler to find out how you can volunteer,” Brauning said. To view instructions on how to search for a circle and sign-up for an open count, visit the Game Commission’s website (www.pgc.state.pa.us) and click on “Wildlife” in the left-hand column, and then choose the “Christmas Bird Count” icon in the center of the page. Information also can be obtained from Audubon Society’s Christmas Bird Count website (http://www.audubon.org/Bird/cbc/), or on the Pennsylvania Society for Ornithology’s website (http://www.pabirds.org). # # # |
and this relates how? why not help folks out? gives them something to do, enjoy nature
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The Audubon sponsored Alt's kill the deer conference ,using laundered money from the Heinz Foundation and now we are reduced to counting birds for the Audubon. I'd say that's rather ironic.
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darn, i really liked heinz ketchup, guess i better stop eating it
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Anyone not knowing about the ridiculous unholy alliance of pgc & audubon where the deer decimation is concerned really needs to do some homework if they wish to discuss deer management in Pa.
For anyone not knowing do some websearches for keywords (Pa, Audubon, deer management) and sort through all the nasty mess. If you need help, there are many here who are already caught up and would be happy to answer any questions Im sure. Might also wanna check out the fine contributions from bozos like Byron shissler & Tim Shaeffer. A couple of audubon honchos that had made it their lifes goals to see pgc doing exactly what they are currently doing. Audubon society is a far greater threat than full outright antihunting groups could ever be. No one takes the antis seriously and theyve accomplished nothing in the way of effecting our sport in Pa, but the eco-extremists are already in the door and they most certainly have had a tremendous effect upon hunting in Pa. |
thanks cornelius, not starting a firestorm, deep breathe bud
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Didnt mean to come off harshly. Sorry, but its an ugly subject. Just telling it like it is. Any percieved disgust was aimed directly at the subject, not any particular poster. As for my statement about checking out the facts, I didnt mean that in a smart arse manner either, but sincerely. Many simply arent aware.
Then on the other hand, some pgc types like to try and convince others that its "conspiracy theory" etc. Unfortunately for them, unlike the "stocked cougars" "stocked coyotes" and "helicopters dropping snakes"...lmao.... The pgc + Audubon ugly connections are well documented, and available to see with siimple internet searchs. |
This is most complaing i've heard from club members ever. Have been riding around every morning. Even on weekdays,the turn out has been decent. This morning had snow on the ground. Heard two shots fired by 11am. I could see hunters moving on some of the hillsides. I have to admit,action was slow.
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WHy did you delete the other audubon thread you had posted BP? Afraid you might offend someone?
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That is a great article and here is one of the biggest lies every told about the history of deer management in PA.
For the 80 years prior to 1999, Pennsylvania hunters, who fund the Game Commission with their license dollars and therefore dictate policy, had demanded that the commission produce more deer than the woods could sustain. For 80 years they had gotten used to gross deer overabundance so that their sport more closely resembled a baited dove shoot than true deer hunting. If they imagined or perceived the slightest diminution in deer numbers, they shrieked like crated shoats. |
Originally Posted by Cornelius08
(Post 3522411)
WHy did you delete the other audubon thread you had posted BP? Afraid you might offend someone?
He!! no! After reading it all the way through,it wasn't the one I was looking for. When I find it,I'll post it. Don't worry. It supports what you stated about the audubon. |
I kinda like the one you had posted bp. Read it 100 times in the past. Shows how extreme those fruitcakes really are.
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Here bp. Take your pick. http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=pa+...8&fr=yfp-t-701 There is no shortage of web pages about audubon sticking their damn noses into Pa deer management. More here in Pa than any other state Ive searched for. Many of the states with better deer management, you dont get any results at all in web search conerning environmentalist extremists being involved in deer management.
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Originally Posted by Cornelius08
(Post 3522430)
I kinda like the one you had posted bp. Read it 100 times in the past. Shows how extreme those fruitcakes really are.
“There is no animal the states have paid more attention to and spent more money on than white-tailed deer. And there is no better example of malpractice.” I knew from working with retired biologists that, like old soldiers, they tend to “just fade away.” In a real sense the good ones are old soldiers. So I asked Alt what he intended to do with the remainder of his life. I liked his answer: “I quit the commission because I could do more to solve this deer crisis by working on the outside. I promised the game commissioners that I would spend the rest of my career trying to change the system, that I would become their worst nightmare. That's where I'm headed.” |
But that was just one of many of Alt's lies. He only made one or two appearances since he left the PGc and now he is more concerned about making money than saving the PGC forests.
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Alt needs a good old fashioned a$$ whipping. I'd sell tickets to it, but I'm first in line.
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Originally Posted by blkpowder
(Post 3522457)
That was the article. This was one particular quote that I didn't care for.
“There is no animal the states have paid more attention to and spent more money on than white-tailed deer. And there is no better example of malpractice.” I knew from working with retired biologists that, like old soldiers, they tend to “just fade away.” In a real sense the good ones are old soldiers. So I asked Alt what he intended to do with the remainder of his life. I liked his answer: “I quit the commission because I could do more to solve this deer crisis by working on the outside. I promised the game commissioners that I would spend the rest of my career trying to change the system, that I would become their worst nightmare. That's where I'm headed.” |
I believe Alt, like some other anal compulsive people really believes he and only he knowns whats best for America and it sure as hell is not the whitailed deer.
I don't think he planned for the demise of deer hunting as we knew it just, that when some started questioning the effects of his plan he took it very personal and became even more standoffish than the board could stand. To big for his britches, for you slow readers. He's gone, and missed by very few.:patriot: |
I love that statement about his intentions to become "biggest nightmare". lmfao.
Pretty big statement. Wonder if he made it while typing on his laptop, onboard the jet to California. lol. Guess hes now striking fear into the hearts of all the anti-environmental extremists with his wildlife photography. That'll teach us not to listen to Dr. Alt! :lmao: lmao. |
bawanajim I believe Alt, like some other anal compulsive people really believes he and only he knowns whats best for America and it sure as hell is not the whitailed deer. To big for his britches |
I for one, have to cast my vote for his statement that when they took him out and showed him the browse lines and impact the deer had on the forests that he was beside himself....as if the PGC's chief bear biologist for well over a decade had never set foot in the woods until then...atleast with his eyes open. Or that a man with a doctorate in wildlife biology who'd spent his life in the woods, simply hadn't noticed the browse lines until someone pointed it out to him. Classic.
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Originally Posted by Screamin Steel
(Post 3522924)
I for one, have to cast my vote for his statement that when they took him out and showed him the browse lines and impact the deer had on the forests that he was beside himself....as if the PGC's chief bear biologist for well over a decade had never set foot in the woods until then...atleast with his eyes open. Or that a man with a doctorate in wildlife biology who'd spent his life in the woods, simply hadn't noticed the browse lines until someone pointed it out to him. Classic.
"My God, look at that browseline along that pasture that the deer made" was his reply. I didn't have the heart to tell him about the cows.:sheep: |
Did he step in one?.......That would have been the cake right there! "Golly gee, you have some big deer in these parts..." LOL
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