NY opening day, who dropped one?
11-26-2009, 02:23 AM
#44
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Middleport NY USA
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Opening day here we had a heavy fog. You couldn't see no more than 10 yds but that lifted at around 9:30am. At around 10am I catch movement in front of me and this guy stepped out 45 yards from me.
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11-26-2009, 04:48 AM
#45
Fork Horn
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Steuben County, NY
Posts: 354
.Seriously, NY (especially central/western NY) produces some whoppers every season. There's nothing wrong with the genetics of our deer, just the age structure of the herd.
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11-26-2009, 09:29 AM
#46
Nontypical Buck
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Location: Orange county, NY
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I dont buy into the idea that some places have only small bucks. every area I hunt ive seen small, medium, and big deer. just cause you dont see the big ones dosent mean there not there. I think some people see and kill more big bucks because the areas they happen to hunt are less pressured and the big boys are less nocturnal. I hunted 3 days in a row this week, on a 20 acre parcel of land adjacent to a hunting club, saw nothing at all until a big 8 point slipped in behind me at 30 yds, at 12noon, by the time I saw him grabbed my gun and turned around he was coverd by too much brush
I made the mistake of not expecting to see anything, especially that big, and I paid the price by missing out on that opprtunity. always believe you have the chance to see a big deer on every hunt, because my belief is that wherever deer are found big bucks can be found.
I made the mistake of not expecting to see anything, especially that big, and I paid the price by missing out on that opprtunity. always believe you have the chance to see a big deer on every hunt, because my belief is that wherever deer are found big bucks can be found.
11-26-2009, 05:19 PM
#47
Nontypical Buck
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Location: Orange county, NY
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well if you have to curse to make a point, it usually means you dont have much else to back it up.I never said people who dont kill big bucks, dont hunt hard. I said just cause you dont see em, doesnt mean they dont exist. Ive seen too many big bucks killed ,and big sheds found ,in places Ive spent hundreds of hours on stand w/out seeing anything bigger than 100". I doubt anyone can point to a study showing that certain areas dont hold any big bucks, how could there be? how can anyone say w/ certainty that there are no big bucks in any given area?
11-27-2009, 03:21 AM
#49
Nontypical Buck
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Location: Orange county, NY
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you know, NY did produce a former world record typical. roosevelt luckey buck shot 1939, scored 198" in 1955, world record till 1960. Id hardly say NY has inferior genetics. people in the midwest dont all shoot big bucks either.
11-27-2009, 03:34 AM
#50
Spike
Join Date: Dec 2007
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The midwest has tremendous soils which contributes alot to the good antler growth. Soils and minerals make up alot of what nutrition is. That's a huge reason why eastern ny/new england bucks don't compare with western ny. Even "big" adirondack bucks require an extra year or 2 to get the same antler growth as a central/western ny deer.
Genetics can be diminished in an area for sure. Where I grew up hunting in Otsego County, no does were shot for decades on a piece a thousands of acres in size. The only bucks surviving were those with spikes etc. that were hard to see. NOt that all spikes are inferior, but over time the pool will be hurt.
I was fortunate enought to get redemption on this buck yesterday morning in Chautauqua county, after missing him on Sunday. Sunday he was on high alert because thedoe he was shadowing was on high alert. Yesterday, he was shadowing a yearling buck and was just the opposite. Honestly, he looked completely exhausted. He had no fat and is wayyy run down which is surprising because the rut just didn't seem intense at all this year. good luck to everyone still hunting...you just never know what may come by. It'll be tough for me to top this year.
http://s670.photobucket.com/albums/vv65/Harley3476/
Genetics can be diminished in an area for sure. Where I grew up hunting in Otsego County, no does were shot for decades on a piece a thousands of acres in size. The only bucks surviving were those with spikes etc. that were hard to see. NOt that all spikes are inferior, but over time the pool will be hurt.
I was fortunate enought to get redemption on this buck yesterday morning in Chautauqua county, after missing him on Sunday. Sunday he was on high alert because thedoe he was shadowing was on high alert. Yesterday, he was shadowing a yearling buck and was just the opposite. Honestly, he looked completely exhausted. He had no fat and is wayyy run down which is surprising because the rut just didn't seem intense at all this year. good luck to everyone still hunting...you just never know what may come by. It'll be tough for me to top this year.
http://s670.photobucket.com/albums/vv65/Harley3476/