ny state lic
#21
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,862
I don't think the $10 will stop too many people from applying for a doe permit. Heck that is little more than a gallon of milk, some bread or a pack of cigarettes. I guess some areas might have too many does. I wouldn't be surprised that most of these areas are suburban type environments where access for hunters is very limited. More rural areas probably don't have the same problems. I agree that it would be better to give permits to hunters than to farmers who just slaughter the deer during the summer. I guess the state can't make these farmers allow hunters to hunt on their land so this might be the only option left. This is a tough call, since these deer probably won't move too far off from these farms, legitimate hunters would probably never get a shot at them on any nearby land anyway. I surely would prefer to have the doe tag in my pocket, but I guess a compromise must be made somewhere.
#22
I don't think the $10 will stop too many people from applying for a doe permit. Heck that is little more than a gallon of milk, some bread or a pack of cigarettes. I guess some areas might have too many does. I wouldn't be surprised that most of these areas are suburban type environments where access for hunters is very limited. More rural areas probably don't have the same problems. I agree that it would be better to give permits to hunters than to farmers who just slaughter the deer during the summer. I guess the state can't make these farmers allow hunters to hunt on their land so this might be the only option left. This is a tough call, since these deer probably won't move too far off from these farms, legitimate hunters would probably never get a shot at them on any nearby land anyway. I surely would prefer to have the doe tag in my pocket, but I guess a compromise must be made somewhere.
#23
The license fee increase is due to the yearly decline in licenses sold. Not enough people hunting so they need to get there money somehow. If every hunter in NYS could get just 1 child to go hunting with them, then the increase would not be necessary. Also, if we could get NYS to lower the hunting age from 14 for big game or at least lower the small game to 8 or even 10, we could get these kids involved sooner and have a better chance of increasing the number of hunters in NYS. This would be a much better approach than to just increase the amount each hunter pays. Unfortunately, our governor has no idea what the rates are because he cannot even see the pen he used to sign his "X" on the bill for the increase.
#24
Guys,
This is exactly what they want. Hunters to NOT get our license. It's their way of reducing the sport by making it too expensive. If we do not buy a license, THE ANTIS WIN! I complain about the price too, but I am not giving up. In fact, I will be buying both of my sons a license (1 is in the service) plus my wife and daughter a fishing license, just to keep our sport alive.
I am not getting an extra doe tag though. Super Sportsman is plenty for me too. I can't wait until the doe population explodes and the everybody will want to find new ways of controlling the deer herd.
This is exactly what they want. Hunters to NOT get our license. It's their way of reducing the sport by making it too expensive. If we do not buy a license, THE ANTIS WIN! I complain about the price too, but I am not giving up. In fact, I will be buying both of my sons a license (1 is in the service) plus my wife and daughter a fishing license, just to keep our sport alive.
I am not getting an extra doe tag though. Super Sportsman is plenty for me too. I can't wait until the doe population explodes and the everybody will want to find new ways of controlling the deer herd.
Last edited by nybowhunter; 08-27-2009 at 04:57 AM.
#25
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,862
I really can't agree with this. The state has done a number of things to promote hunting and increase hunter participation in the last few years, such as reducing hunting age for youngsters, open up more state land to hunting, allow rifles to be used in counties where it never was before, open up more regions for bear hunting. I don't think they would have done any of this if they really wanted to stop hunting. NYS as all others states realize that hunters play a vital role in wildlife management. They don't create hunting seasons in hopes that no one will hunt or buy licenses. License costs went up like everything has gone up. I also pay more for health insurance, groceries, gasoline, utilities, etc. I don't like any of that neither, but that's just the way it is in todays world. The cost of a yearly hunting license is still less than many people pay for one months cable TV bill. I will take the hunting license and the enjoyment I will get from it over watching any stupid hunting show on cable any day of the week!!
#26
The license fee increase is due to the yearly decline in licenses sold. Not enough people hunting so they need to get there money somehow. If every hunter in NYS could get just 1 child to go hunting with them, then the increase would not be necessary. Also, if we could get NYS to lower the hunting age from 14 for big game or at least lower the small game to 8 or even 10, we could get these kids involved sooner and have a better chance of increasing the number of hunters in NYS. This would be a much better approach than to just increase the amount each hunter pays. Unfortunately, our governor has no idea what the rates are because he cannot even see the pen he used to sign his "X" on the bill for the increase.
Guys,
This is exactly what they want. Hunters to NOT get our license. It's their way of reducing the sport by making it too expensive. If we do not buy a license, THE ANTIS WIN! I complain about the price too, but I am not giving up. In fact, I will be buying both of my sons a license (1 is in the service) plus my wife and daughter a fishing license, just to keep our sport alive.
I am not getting an extra doe tag though. Super Sportsman is plenty for me too. I can't wait until the doe population explodes and the everybody will want to find new ways of controlling the deer herd.
This is exactly what they want. Hunters to NOT get our license. It's their way of reducing the sport by making it too expensive. If we do not buy a license, THE ANTIS WIN! I complain about the price too, but I am not giving up. In fact, I will be buying both of my sons a license (1 is in the service) plus my wife and daughter a fishing license, just to keep our sport alive.
I am not getting an extra doe tag though. Super Sportsman is plenty for me too. I can't wait until the doe population explodes and the everybody will want to find new ways of controlling the deer herd.
#27
Steve,
You make a good argument but I still do not believe Gov Peterson or Pres Obama are pro-hunting or pro-gun. Our licenses are expensive compared to other states. When you compare the cost versus the length of season. Our season is short compared to most other states. South Carolina starts in August. I think NC starts in September. NJ season goes into February. Ohio has an extended bow season in January. I never trust the motives of our government. The increase is to cover their fat budget that they won't cut.
You make a good argument but I still do not believe Gov Peterson or Pres Obama are pro-hunting or pro-gun. Our licenses are expensive compared to other states. When you compare the cost versus the length of season. Our season is short compared to most other states. South Carolina starts in August. I think NC starts in September. NJ season goes into February. Ohio has an extended bow season in January. I never trust the motives of our government. The increase is to cover their fat budget that they won't cut.
Last edited by nybowhunter; 08-30-2009 at 04:38 AM.
#28
Spike
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: NH, USA
Posts: 55
NY needs to stop wasting the money they receive. Think about how many non residents see the price increase and say that's it, so not only do they lose the money from the license they lose all the extra money brought in to the state. Hmm...wonder why NY is in financial trouble. People need to get off their butts and vote these socialist leaders out of office. But... NY city has the majority of the voting block so what they want they get and the rest of us live with it and complain.