Pa Digest
 

I am not one to get involved in all the PGC bashing that goes on around here but... i found it alittle odd that the advertisement on the inside cover of the year's digest was for EXCALIBUR crossbows :confused2:

Why?

Even last year 20% or more of all of the state’s archery hunters were legal to use crossbows during archery season, either because of having a special permit or by hunting in one of the special regulations areas of the state were cross bows have been legal for any one to use for several years. Also anyone could use a crossbow, anywhere in the state, during the firearms or muzzle loading deer seasons if properly licensed.

This year anyone can use a crossbow during at least part of and perhaps all of the archery season.

So I have to wonder why you would find it odd that crossbows manufactures would pay to advertise their product in the Pennsylvania hunting digest.

R.S. Bodenhorn

I can't recall where I read it today, but according to the article some of those crossbow ads in that Digest cost in the neighborhood of $12,000!

I'll tell you this: if it were my advertising dollars in that digest, and/or I had stuck a bunch of money into a crossbow setup, I'd be one whizzed off sonofabeech over this latest PGC BOC debacle.

One motel owner in Rexford told me yesterday that he had bookings from a group of 8 crossbow hunters from Ohio that had set up their vacations, booked rooms and purchased licenses for the first week of November. They heard the news and cancelled. Hopefully, he will be able to get in touch with them and explain that this new amendment in't set in stone as I explained it to him.

Huh?, 20% of the states archers seems like a pretty fair number for a weapon no one wants to use??? Me thinks BTB and his minions might want to look at that number, if organized I am sure it will grow. Maybe visit http://www.pacrossbow.com I am thinking there might be more dogs in the fight then Corny , BTB and their pals think.

If you look back, you will see that that number has been discussed here before. It has to do with the fact that our disabled crossbow regulation is a "shall issue" rule. That basically means that if a doctor signs off, the permit gets issued.

That didnt change the fact that 90% of the public comment was against the crossbow nor does it change the fact that the impact of full inclusion had not been studied. Although you have chosen to ignore it, I have said many times that I personally have no problem with the weapon. I have a problem with allowing something in where we have no credible information on how it will impact the unique situations that is PA and that 90% of PA hunters who voiced an opinion were opposed to inclusion.

Personally I think this crossbow issue is going to be a passing fad. When some hunters realize you still need some bow hunting skills to harvest a deer with one, they will lose interest. After I got my new Guardian dialed in, I can't see any advantage owning a cross bow.

Look further and you will find 4 of the first 4 ads for Specific products- (not distributors or organizations) are all for crossbows.... 4 Of The First 4 !!!! Look for yourself.

I don't find it odd at all it is just what i expect from the PAGC. Money first
Wildlife second
and hunters wishes dead last on your list of priorites

Why the big fuss over xbow ads in the Digest? They've been accepting ATV ads for years and still don't allow them on SGLs without a disabled permit.

:violin:

Hey... maybe you can try that next. Crossbow from a fourwheeler! Why not take everything from the handicapped? I bet you would love that! You won't have to practice much and you can sleep in a little longer since you won't have to walk that whole 200 yds from the truck. Only an xbow supporter would have made the xbow /fourwheeler comparison... it figures!

4evr what are xbow guys taking away from the disabled. Xbows was so they could go out not so they have a advantage

This is my personal opinion. Those who are disabled do not have the same opportunities or capabilities as the rest of us. Their ability to use a xbow gave them the ability to hunt with the rest of the archers because of it's "advantages" over a compound or any other vertical bow. Today's youth (as a whole) are the laziest yet, my 12 year old step son is testament to that. I feel allowing these xbows cheapens the tradition and experience of the sport or style of hunting the majority of us enjoy. Alot of youth and new archers will opt out for the easier method of becoming proficient with a xbow rather than the vertical bow. Other states allowing xbows also allow hunters to shoot their own deer (not mentored youth) at much younger ages so they start out with what? the Xbow. And Why? Because it is easier. Hopefully the majority of these youth will come to seek the more difficult challenges that hunting with a vertical bow offers and they gain a sense of tradition and pride in the hard work that it takes to become proficient with a vertical bow. If not they are missing out and I feel they are cheating themselves out of that satisfaction and feeling of achievment of taking a deer wih a bow
I don't see much difference between allowing able bodied men to use this weapon any different than petitioning for the right to park in handicapped spaces- after all if they are really crippled they can always use a wheelchair thus you would actually have to walk further than they would so why not extend you this convenience as well and since they aren't walking anyway you wouldn't be taking anything from them, Right?

There is a rumor going round that the Game commission is going to designate Special Xbow permissible areas after the current first 2 week ruling. Look for signs like these to distinguish these areas from the rest of the SGL's.:woot:

First lmao

I Agree most younger kids today are lazy . But xbows being allowed for anyone doesnt hurt disable people.
If a store only has 2 handicap stalls and no regular. do you gotta poop in the urinal so the handicap have a advantage.

Fair enough. I understand you love the xbow and maybe I am being unfair, definitely a little harsh. I won't use one but I hope you have success with this weapon now that it has been included into the archery season. Good Luck!

I wont be using one this year. But i do support the use of the in archery. Good Luck to you