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BTBowhunter 06-15-2009 03:24 PM

How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
OK Straight out. This is an experiment to see if it's possible for a polls creator to alter the results.

Some inconsistencies have showed up on other PA polls creating questions.

Please take the results with a grain of salt. This is a deliberate atempt to discover how, if its possible, poll results could be altered to the creators whims.

Record a vote and thenpost your vote and lets see if anyalterations are possible

BTBowhunter 06-15-2009 03:32 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
I voted good but could be better

Cornelius08 06-15-2009 03:48 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
I voted worse than ever. My vote was last vote, and it was on 4:45:58.

Type in a time before that, but after the time of your first post to end the poll, and see if anything changes as youd claimed.

Cornelius08 06-15-2009 03:50 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
"Some inconsistencies have showed up on other PA polls creating questions."

No, actually there have been none, you just didnt like the results.

BTBowhunter 06-15-2009 04:00 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 

ORIGINAL: Cornelius08

I voted worse than ever. My vote was last vote, and it was on 4:45:58.

Type in a time before that, but after the time of your first post to end the poll, and see if anything changes as youd claimed.
We'll just wait till there are a few more votes before doing anything.



"Some inconsistencies have showed up on other PA polls creating questions."

No, actually there have been none, you just didnt like the results.
If that proves out, you'll be the first to know. If it proves false, you'll be the first to know.

pats102862 06-15-2009 04:13 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
I voted its the best is ever been , Don't ask me why.

ManySpurs 06-15-2009 04:38 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
Pa hunting is bad these days

Cornelius08 06-15-2009 04:52 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
"If that proves out, you'll be the first to know. If it proves false, you'll be the first to know. '

Sorry pal, but i ALREADY know. There is no "two ways" about it. And if and when you figure that out, you sir can kizz my arse.:D


BTBowhunter 06-15-2009 05:06 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
Well Whattya know!

wheres your vote Corny?

This simply proves that the polls are at the mercy of their creator as I suspected.

pats102862 06-15-2009 05:12 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
The last I looked, I was the third vote. Can you make me the only vote?

BTBowhunter 06-15-2009 05:17 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
Not sure. I'll try and see.

I guess we know how credible these things are now don't we?

BTBowhunter 06-15-2009 05:20 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
Whoops! Now everyone is gone. I'm new at this. I guess I should check with ole Corny for some pointers;)

Cornelius08 06-15-2009 05:30 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
I see no votes??? How did you do it. Can you give "great hunting in Pa" all the votes?? And only one to another?

If not, I guess its not possible to do anything other than erase all the votes??

Seems to me, all you did was delete the poll and start it over and pretended like you actually did something trying to fool people, whom you apparently think are dumber than you are?[:'(]

BTBowhunter 06-15-2009 05:37 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 

I see no votes??? How did you do it. Can you give "great hunting in Pa" all the votes?? And only one to another?
LOL! Play dumb now! If you hadn't been sloppy with your end times, we may have never figured this out.


Actually, the first time I played with it, two votes went away. The second time they all went. I'm not entirely sure but the point has been proven.

Now that we have established that it's possible, it's pretty apparent why your polls have the discrepancies that they do.

Cornelius08 06-15-2009 05:43 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
"LOL! Play dumb now! If you hadn't been sloppy with your end times, we may have never figured this out. "

There noone playing dumb other than YOU. You deleted the poll. I dont see a skewed result. I see you having erased the whole thing! LOL. How did that skew the poll benefit you in any way? LMAO. And why would anyone do that when it would be kinda obvious? LMFAO. What a lying dill weed. Youre unreal LMAO. Typical lying arse pgc type


"Actually, the first time I played with it, two votes went away. The second time they all went. I'm not entirely sure but the point has been proven. "

Ha ha ha. Yeah. According to you two votes went away! LMAO. If that happened you'd have pointed it out and not gotten rid of all of them and had no proof it was possible.



BTBowhunter 06-15-2009 05:54 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
Easy enough to prove or disprove. Pats was here when it went down to two. You play the dumb one fairly well but it was your polls that inspired this little experiment. I'll reopen the thing and If we get a few more votes, I'll copy and paste it before I try to Cornelius the poll again. LOL

pats102862 06-15-2009 05:58 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
When I voted, there were three votes. When I checked back there were two votes, yours was gone. I seen it you know you seen it. I am sure he would run another poll for you if you are still interested.

BTBowhunter 06-15-2009 05:59 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
Well whattya know! It's open again with new voting.

Gee Corny, maybe you can reopen yours and vote em again too!

Is that why we saw those mysterious discrepancies on your polls and Mavericks?

Havent figured your game out totally but I've figured out enough to know that your polls can't be trusted

Cornelius08 06-15-2009 06:04 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
"When I voted, there were three votes. When I checked back there were two votes, yours was gone. I seen it you know you seen it. I am sure he would run another poll for you if you are still interested. "

I am interested for ****s and giggles. And no, im no liar, i didnt see a thing. I was hopping into other threads and also was away from the pc for a few minutes, apparently during all the "excitement".

pats102862 06-15-2009 06:05 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
I voted the same as last time, best ever

Cornelius08 06-15-2009 06:08 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
"Well whattya know! It's open again with new voting.

Gee Corny, maybe you can reopen yours and vote em again too! "

Id imagine you can if you change the "end date" to a date in the future. I did a bit of experimenting a few moments ago on my worst hunting state poll. I changed the "end date" to only 1 minute after the original starting time. I never lost one vote by doing it, and there are still 47 total votes on the poll.

"Is that why we saw those mysterious discrepancies on your polls and Mavericks?"

There is no discrepancies. I didnt delete my poll as you just did or thered be no votes and Id imagine when there were people in the forum constantly watching as a few were, nothing could be "pulled" even if it were possible, which I dont believe it is.

"Havent figured your game out totally but I've figured out enough to know that your polls can't be trusted"

In other words youre blowing smoke out your ass. All you did was erase the poll, and now restart it. That didnt benefit you at all, and wouldnt go unnoticed after several have voted and the total went to zero. LMAO>[:'(]


BTBowhunter 06-15-2009 06:10 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 

ORIGINAL: Cornelius08

"When I voted, there were three votes. When I checked back there were two votes, yours was gone. I seen it you know you seen it. I am sure he would run another poll for you if you are still interested. "

I am interested for ****s and giggles. And no, im no liar, i didnt see a thing. I was hopping into other threads and also was away from the pc for a few minutes, apparently during all the "excitement".
Sure, we know that you're no liar


You watching now? I'll see if I can Cornelious the poll again......

BTBowhunter 06-15-2009 06:13 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
OK lets see if we can Cornelius the poll.

here is a cut and paste with a time stamp.......






How reliable are all these PA deer polls




I dont hunt PA and dont plan to







33% (1)

I havent hunted PA but I plan to in the future







0% (0)

Pa deer hunting is the worst it's ever been







0% (0)

Pa hunting is fair







0% (0)

Pa hunting is bad these days







0% (0)

pa deer huning is the best it's ever been







66% (2)

Pa deer hunting is good but could be better







0% (0)



Total Votes : 3

[Edit Poll]


(last vote on : 6/15/2009 8:04:28 PM)
(Poll will run till: -- )

Cornelius08 06-15-2009 06:19 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
"Sure, we know that you're no liar"

You are the only liar here. And thats a fact.

And you arent doing this crap as proof! I cant even vote!! Who the hell voted 3 times more real quick you and patsy and another id?? WTF?? Youre simply gonna delete it again and vote your vote(s)again!! How you gonna do that with a poll that has more than 1 or 3 votes and open to others whove already voted and you cannot control??

Whatta lying douchebag.

BTBowhunter 06-15-2009 06:20 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
POOF! the poll has been Corneliused!!





How reliable are all these PA deer polls




I dont hunt PA and dont plan to







33% (1)

I havent hunted PA but I plan to in the future







0% (0)

Pa deer hunting is the worst it's ever been







0% (0)

Pa hunting is fair







0% (0)

Pa hunting is bad these days







0% (0)

pa deer huning is the best it's ever been







33% (1)

Pa deer hunting is good but could be better







33% (1)



Total Votes : 3

[Edit Poll]


(last vote on : 6/15/2009 8:16:48 PM)
(Poll ended: 6/15/2009 7:00:00 PM)

Cornelius08 06-15-2009 06:23 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
Gee, I guess i didnt "call it" good thing I got my post in before you "proof" lmao.

Cornelius it? Oh no my friend. Cornelius isnt an idiot OR asnine liar. Can you say the same? LMFAO.

Otherwise, If what Im saying is NOT true, prove it. if you arent a complete liar, please explain the process of "corneliusing" that poll, so anyone can decide if you are full of chit or not.

Thats what I thought you Flipping liar. LMAO>:eek:

BTBowhunter 06-15-2009 06:25 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 

ORIGINAL: Cornelius08

"Sure, we know that you're no liar"

You are the only liar here. And thats a fact.

And you arent doing this crap as proof! I cant even vote!! Who the hell voted 3 times more real quick you and patsy and another id?? WTF?? Youre simply gonna delete it again and vote your vote(s)again!! How you gonna do that with a poll that has more than 1 or 3 votes and open to others whove already voted and you cannot control??

Whatta lying douchebag.
Lets not forget what inspired this little experiment! No one but you and your alter ego Maverick has a poll with the mysterious ending time stamps.

Sorry that we pissed in your cheerios by figuring out your little
shell game[&:]




Otherwise, If what Im saying is NOT true, prove it. if you arent a complete liar, please explain the process of "corneliusing" that poll, so anyone can decide if you are full of chit or not.

It wasnt really that hard to figure out once your little discrepancies made me go looking. After all, you obviously had it figured out long ago.

If it'll make you feel better, I'll reopen it so you can vote again without using an alias;)

Cornelius08 06-15-2009 06:27 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
Only pissing is you, since youre pissy over me calling you liar and fraud for the last few months. I believe youve neglected to address the last post.;)

LMFAO



Shell game??? that would insinuate changing the wording of the posts and the order. I guess noone would notice with multiple people watching the results every day?? LMAO. Or people wouldnt know how they voted and the number of votes for their choice there were? LMFAO. What a desparate dill hole you are. Lying fraud. You belong on the board of pgc commissioners! lmao.

Cornelius08 06-15-2009 06:30 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
Open it. I'll vote, leave it open till we get more votes, then i'll tell you the result I would like.

BTBowhunter 06-15-2009 06:32 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
You can vote now if it'll make you feel better:D

Cornelius08 06-15-2009 06:36 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
There are 4 votes. Mine is Pa is worst its been.

Make 6 votes for that option??


Cornelius08 06-15-2009 06:38 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
...and make it snappy cauze i dont wanna give forever to comply so you can get a few others to vote or use your other aliases.... Tick tock tick tock.

BTBowhunter 06-15-2009 06:39 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 

ORIGINAL: Cornelius08

Open it. I'll vote, leave it open till we get more votes, then i'll tell you the result I would like.
Nawwww you've done that plenty of times before. This was an experiment aimed at proving or disproving my suspicians that these things could be fooled with by the creator. Your sloppiness when you played withyour polls tipped me off. The results here are meaningless because I can change them if I so choose just as you've most likely done several times.

The whole point herte was to determine just how reliable these things are and they are now obviously at the whim of the poll starter. BTW, for any viewers that think I'm some kind of hacker whiz, nothing could be further frrom the truth. Anyone can do this with a poll here if they havea desire to do so.

I certainly dont plan on starting or participating in any again as the results cant be trusted.

BTBowhunter 06-15-2009 06:41 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 

ORIGINAL: Cornelius08

...and make it snappy cauze i dont wanna give forever to comply so you can get a few others to vote or use your other aliases.... Tick tock tick tock.
Now be nice or your vote might get dumped again[&:]

Cornelius08 06-15-2009 06:45 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
"Nawwww you've done that plenty of times before. This was an experiment aimed at proving or disproving my suspicians that these things could be fooled with by the creator. "

Oh oh I see. So i was 1000% right on that you were a liar, and you misrepresented your accusations grossly. You simply deleted the poll and started it again. WOW. Youre a regular magician. LMAO. Caught in another lie.

" If you could show how you can change a poll to Your sloppiness when you played with your polls tipped me off. The results here are meaningless because I can change them if I so choose just as you've most likely done several times. "

LMAO> yet you cannot prove it. EXACTLY what most here probably expected. SImply deflecting critism youve received. Nothing more. Nothing less.

"The whole point herte was to determine just how reliable these things are and they are now obviously at the whim of the poll starter."

Yet you STILL havent proven it LMAO. That suggest the poll starter can effect the outcome. Thats not the case. You can stop it, delete it and start over, but then you have a NEW POLL. lmfao.

" BTW, for any viewers that think I'm some kind of hacker whiz,"

Hacker whiz? LMFAO, from what youve shown thus far, they probably think your a complete nut needing immediate psychological evaluation!

"I certainly dont plan on starting or participating in any again as the results cant be trusted."

LMAO, only thing that cant be trusted is you, and you voting multiple times as Ive pointed out, and you are trying to weasel out of.

Cornelius08 06-15-2009 06:48 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
"Now be nice or your vote might get dumped again"

Lmao, yeah. Delete the poll because it has few vote then start again and vote 3 times? Wow, your slick! LMFAO. Only problem for you is that if you leave the poll running long enough for me to see the results, I will be given the option to vote AGAIN as long as its still running since it will be a NEW poll!!! Im sure noone would notice when that when the poll comes up, they could still vote??

What a friggin braintrust. [8D][8D][8D][8D]

Cornelius08 06-15-2009 06:49 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
Double post.

But may as well add this instead of wasting space..... LIAR! lmao.

pats102862 06-15-2009 06:50 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
Well at least we know now that Pa. voted the worst deer state in the nation is probabaly a bigger sham than the PGC deer audit. some pollsters here might have a career polling for MSNBC.

BTBowhunter 06-15-2009 06:52 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 

ORIGINAL: Cornelius08

"Nawwww you've done that plenty of times before. This was an experiment aimed at proving or disproving my suspicians that these things could be fooled with by the creator. "

Oh oh I see. So i was 1000% right on that you were a liar, and you misrepresented your accusations grossly. You simply deleted the poll and started it again. WOW. Youre a regular magician. LMAO. Caught in another lie.

" If you could show how you can change a poll to Your sloppiness when you played with your polls tipped me off. The results here are meaningless because I can change them if I so choose just as you've most likely done several times. "

LMAO> yet you cannot prove it. EXACTLY what most here probably expected. SImply deflecting critism youve received. Nothing more. Nothing less.

"The whole point herte was to determine just how reliable these things are and they are now obviously at the whim of the poll starter."

Yet you STILL havent proven it LMAO. That suggest the poll starter can effect the outcome. Thats not the case. You can stop it, delete it and start over, but then you have a NEW POLL. lmfao.

" BTW, for any viewers that think I'm some kind of hacker whiz,"

Hacker whiz? LMFAO, from what youve shown thus far, they probably think your a complete nut needing immediate psychological evaluation!

"I certainly dont plan on starting or participating in any again as the results cant be trusted."

LMAO, only thing that cant be trusted is you, and you voting multiple times as Ive pointed out, and you are trying to weasel out of.
I told you to be nice. You didnt listen. Your vote is gone now. Along with your arguement that the poll was simply deleted.

Proof BTW that the poll starter can affect the outcome selctively which makes your polls VERY suspect at least. Your explanation for the discrepancy on the time stamp shows that you have obviously explored the possibilities that are now exposed.

Cornelius08 06-15-2009 06:53 PM

RE: How reliable are all these PA deer polls
 
Visual difficulty patsy? Ive just shown btb, or anyone else CANNOT manipulate a poll. Just start a new one over. Perhaps you better reread, this time with your eyes open.

Also pretty clear that the results are right in line with those from SEVERAL other sites, that have different poll instruction, as well as some actually done by site administration.


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